[8:11am ET] The discussion of the gold market inevitably comes down to whether or not the gold price is manipulated and by whom. GATA’s Bill Murphy has been an effective spokesperson for many people who are outraged that central bankers and the money center banks are motivated to suppress the price of gold, and they do it in a highly organized fashion. In the context of our need for free capital markets, I lend my voice to that argument as well.
http://news.goldseek.com/GATA/1237997471.php
I believe that the money center banks and broker-dealers (Humungous Bank & Broker) work in combination with central banks and government in whatever way they can to ensure the risk-free trade. If it were in HB&B’s best interest to reverse the trade, ie, to inflate the price of gold via depressing the $USD, and that’s what central banks and govt wanted, that’s what HB&B would do. Their interest is to make a profit, and partnering with the US government and the Fed is a guaranteed winning move.
Yes, depending on the intentions of government, the price of gold has gone both ways in the past 100 years. In fact, during a severe deflation such as the 1930’s Great Depression, I believe that finance ministers, central bankers and HB&B did use gold as a policy instrument to end the economic woes of the time. The US government devalued the US Dollar and repriced gold from $20 to $35, but also seized people’s control over gold for about 35 years. After the people were allowed to trade gold freely in the late 1960’s, due to reflation needed to pay for Vietnam, the price of gold soared then too. During the high inflation 1970’s, the opposite was the case; the monetary authorities took actions intended to suppress the price.
So, there has always been a direct link between the $USD and gold. The common factor is the price rises when government needs it to rise, and it falls when it needs it to fall. HB&B is merely along for the ride.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_dollar
Because the US is in a severe financial crisis today, where the monetary authorities have now decided to reflate as they did in the early 1930’s and late 1960’s, I would not be surprised to see the gold price soon rally to $2500, along with the tacit approval of the international authorities, and I note that these people of the group of 20 most economically powerful nations will be meeting in London on April 2 to discuss issues like currencies and gold.
But whether the gold price is being supported or suppressed, it is my strong belief that both are wrong. What we the people need to argue is that these interventionists have no right to use capital markets as an economic policy tool. The independent owners of capital use the market as a legitimate price discovery mechanism, which ought to be our fundamental right since it is our capital. Government and central bankers should not have the right to use our capital against us.
Here is a reason why. The FOMC has decided to “stabilize” prices by buying bonds and pushing liquidity into the banks. They give their trading orders to the banks that immediately profit from them. Why not be fair about this and announce to the world that the policy decision was made and that following the six-week interval between that FOMC meeting and the next one, should the free market not adjust accordingly, the FOMC would start to trade in a fashion that would achieve the Fed’s objectives.
That is not being done because insiders would not profit from it. So, the bottom line is that I do believe intervention, at times is necessary, but policy announcements ought to be sufficient. What is happening today is a fraud against the public. These risk-free trades being handed to HB&B have got to stop.
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Cara 100 Ratings Changes
Good morning.
Upgrades:
LLTC - to Overweight @ Thomas Weisel. Price Target Raised from $24 to $28
TCK - to Buy @ UBS
Downgrade:
CHA - to Sell @ Citigroup
New:
RIMM - Kaufman Bros. Initiates Coverage with a Hold. Price Target = $50
FOMC
Yes, wasn't it "special" that they decided to manipulate the treasury market yesterday? Is there some reason I, as an independent trader/owner of capital, need the government to screw with my price discovery and lose me money?
I was perfectly happy with my profits in TBT yesterday before the announcement.
BTW, used car salesmen have overtaken all politicians, bankers, brokers, card sharks and snake oil salesmen as the most trusted on my list of scoundrels.
We need more letters of resignation from people like that chump from AIG this AM in the NY Times. My comment?
You can quote me....
"Don't let the door hit you in the ass in the way out."
Can you take a Senator, a Congressperson, a Fed Chair and Treasury Secretary with you please?
Bill Murphy Video from March 24, 2009
For those who missed the Bill Murphy interview last evening, here is the replay:
http://tinyurl.com/cawzc2
March 25 (Bloomberg) -- Bill Murphy, chairman of the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee, talks with Bloomberg's Bernard Lo about global central banks' intervention in the gold market.
Murphy, speaking from Dallas, also discusses his forecast for the price of gold. (Source: Bloomberg)
00:00 Central banks "manipulating" gold price
04:49 Gold to break through $1000 "very shortly"
Running time 07:17
Gold and Governments
Why would they give up control, that would be giving up power. Governments don't do that.
Presidential Race Contributions
Barack Obama's top campaign contributors
University of California $1,385,675
Goldman Sachs $980,945
Microsoft Corp $806,299
Harvard University $793,460
Google Inc $790,564
Citigroup Inc $657,268
JPMorgan Chase & Co $650,758
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycl...
John McCain's top campaign contributors
Merrill Lynch $371,295
Citigroup Inc $320,251
Morgan Stanley $271,152
Goldman Sachs $230,095
JPMorgan Chase & Co $225,557
US Government $207,829
AT&T Inc $194,913
UBS AG $182,079
Problem for Position Traders
I believe that you can trade this market but it's very tough to position trade (buy and hold). Why?
If we make some (maybe lame) assumption that price above some arbitrary moving average (let's say 500 day) is bullish, what has worked?
1. Gold
2. Silver
3. Volatility
4. The US dollar
5. Some inverse ETFs
Now, let's look at the 'socialization of markets', as in the Keynesian imperative. Todd Harrison says, "the difference between intervention and manipulation is communication." If the government says, "we are going to buy futures to juice rallies," then that's different than our collective ignorance (if that happens).
The trend says "take positions in the above", yet the interventionists work feverishly to dampen or reverse the trend ("inflate or die", "default or debase") both overtly (alphabet soup of TARP, TALF, TSLF, quantitative easing, etc) and probably covertly.
So we have the Yin of trend and the Yang of intervention, admixed with the bizarre fawning over central bankers and government officials by some elements...with alternative praise and vilification of the 'free market'.
Is Bill the Upton Sinclair of our time?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jungle
Re: FOMC
Right on Craig..
Durable goods
Consensus expects a drop of 2.4 percent following the 4.5 drop in January.
Update edit:
Economists had expected demand would fall at U.S. factories for cars, airplanes, household appliances, furniture and other large goods. Instead, the government reported Wednesday that durable goods orders increased by 3.4 percent in February. A drop of 2 percent had been expected.
Is there a senator in the USA
who could say this to Obama & gang?
Warning...This is brutal...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs
Re: Gold and Governments
>Why would they give up control, that would be giving up power. Governments don't do that.
Are they giving up control?
They've used up the traditional monetary policy of interest rates - there is nowhere to left to go down this track. So they run the printing presses, knowing full well that this will devalue the dollar. This, I believe, is what is called inflating their way out of the perceived deflationary danger (except as I've read elsewhere, the fed might be confusing monetary deflation with asset deflation - which was Japan's bane). The dollar weakening helps exports - not a primary means of getting out of this mess but a necessary one nonetheless.
The fed perceives the danger has passed after some time - they shrink their balance sheet and its deja vu gold manipulation again.
edit: and as Bill points out, it's a boys club so the network gets to profit from the situation before us.
Am I right? Is this the tacit approval given to a rise in gold prices?
TRA update
CF rebuffed again in takeover bid
March 24, 2009
(Reuters) — Fertilizer maker Terra Industries Inc. on Tuesday rejected rival CF Industries Holdings Inc.'s latest takeover offer, saying the bid undervalues the company and is counter to its strategic objectives.
In a letter to CF Chief Executive Stephen Wilson, Terra CEO Michael Bennett and Chairman Henry Slack rejected the proposal, which CF said on Monday it was prepared to raise by 11 percent to $30.50 for each Terra share.
Based on Terra's 97.7 million outstanding shares as of Feb. 27, the bid would be worth about $2.98 billion.
"This most recent version of your proposal continues to run counter to Terra's strategic objectives, substantially undervalues Terra both absolutely and relative to CF, and would deliver less value to our shareholders than would owning Terra on a stand-alone basis," the letter said.
Terra had previously rejected CF bids of $20 and $27.50 per share.
Re: TRA update
Will they try a hostile takeover Seamus. Is it possible? (i.e., is there a buck in holding TRA?)
Re: Is there a senator in the USA
Man QT.....
No. It isn't because they don't feel the same. It's just that most U.S. Senators can't craft even one sentence as effective or as representative of the people they are supposed to represent.
A U.S. Senator might be almost as eloquent......but only while defending bankers, brokers and scumbags.
Re: Is there a senator in the USA
BTW, that wasn't brutal. Just ask my wife. I give the TV more hell all the time.
And yes, my wife still informs me no one can hear me but her....
gold $1000?
i have respect for bill murphy and everything he does for gold and GATA.
i agree w/ most of his thesis, especially because he knows so much more about gold than most of us could ever possibly learn.
im cautious of any calls for a quick move above $1000 for gold. it just seems too much of a given to so many of us to happen like that. gold never makes it that easy. last time a similar up spike in gold occurred in 08 we shortly moved back down to past levels when the dust settled. we have retraced about 1/2 the upward move, mostly because of the dump the occurred just prior to the big move up last week. in effect little has change other than the USD index much lower than before.
miners had a nice move yesterday and hopefully they can continue that today to spark a mini-trend. if gold can move back above the $931 resistance line in short order who knows, $1000 may just be around the corner.
gold is like the prettiest girl in the room,
Re: Is there a senator in the USA
Craig
LOL
Re: gold $1000?
"gold is like the prettiest girl in the room"
ROTFLOL!!! THAT explains everything!
Re: Is there a senator in the USA
who could say this to Obama & gang?
Probably no one, since they would also have to explain why they walked in lockstep with Bush in foolishly cutting taxes and increasing spending to swell the debt to over $10T. Now with Obama's increased borrowing (almost another $500B in the first 60 days of taking office) we can all look forward to it growing to about $12T fairly soon.
But I still get a hearty laugh whenever I read anyone suggest Obama created this situation.
I'm perfectly willing to have my taxes raised because I DON'T want this debt passed on to my children. Do YOU recognize this brutal truth?
Re: gold $1000?
platinum, however, is the smartest girl in the room.
Re: TRA update
(i.e., is there a buck in holding TRA?)
You have to make that decision.
Hostile takeover? CF is soliciting TRA holders despite the board rejection. Both parties appear very determined.
Add in AGU offer to CF of @ $71-$72 and CF Board’s rejection for reasons similar to TRA Boards rejection of CF.
Soap opera continues.
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In other areas, as posted on Skype yesterday, reports out of Sao Paulo SDA may merge with PDA (Cara 100). Can’t exactly recall which brokerage, perhaps Citi, came out with buy this morning or late last night, if memory serves me right. DOYDD.
Durable goods orders are
Durable goods orders are shockingly positive. A temporary aberration?
Monkey!
Trying one at market open. If nothing else, it should provide a data point for back testing later.
Re: Presidential Race Contributions
CP- I'd like to see the same list for each of the Congressman/women, Senators and committee members who have anything to do legislatively with AIG, Fannie, Freddie, etc etc. Then I'd also like to see the relationships between the top easchelon of the Fed, Treasury, and those in HBB. I think these lists/relationships would clear up almost everything there is to know.
S
Cara 100 Update
CCL - estimates increased through 2010 at UBS. European bookings are holding up well, and the company is keeping a tight lid on expenses. Buy rating and $28 price target.
RIMM - Downgraded at J.P. Morgan with an Underweight rating due to inevitable declines in average sales prices and growing R&D expenses. Believe that company has reached peak earnings power, but growth rate will slow over the next 18 months as enterprise net adds fall victim to rising unemployment. Price target at $40.
FAZ - Quick in & out.
A nice start - 10 minutes in and up $1k.
sorry, OG, FAZ or FAS?
sorry, OG, FAZ or FAS?
Re: Durable goods orders are
I have trouble believing the large increase in durable goods orders (ex autos). What caused the increase? Government purchases of materials for infrastructure improvement? Certainly Main Street isn't in the midst of a buying spree? The US is still losing jobs at 600,000+ a month. I need to see the money before I'll buy into this number.
Re: Is there a senator in the USA
From a Canadian perspective, we don't even get to address the PM as he doesn't hold (many) press conferences. Certainly not one an informed and articulate questioner could ask a penetrating question. (Our parliament question and answer sessions are nothing more than a mad-house.) And no, we can't ask the Finance Minister either as he's told what to say and do by the PM and the PMO. And don't you realize our "esteemed" PM knows all -- it only took him until last October when he read the polls to realize he was going to lose the election if he didn't change his mantra of "Our economy is in good shape", and, "There's no cause for alarm in Canada", and, "We have nothing to fear economically". Yes, brilliant. Aware. In touch. And sickening.
S
TCK catching a bid
up 7%
Re: Presidential Race Contributions
CP: That pretty much ends all debate, doesn't it. Thanks for the resounding confirmation of facts.
fading the open? maybe, maybe not.
Not that easy this morning to call a fade. Not sure why, maybe it's the start of EOQ accumulation? But I could be wrong.
Re: sorry, OG, FAZ or FAS?
FAZ. Got in heavy @ 20.08/Out @ 20.29.
Wish I'd swapped to FAS on exit. Not that good.
Market having trouble settling on a direction this morning.
Re: Is there a senator in the USA
I don't hear people around here saying Obama created this mess, but even some who had high hopes for him are now beginning to notice he is not addressing the real causes — just continuing the policies initiated under Bush.
We have the same people running nearly everything — banks, rating agencies, oversight committees etc. Or, in the case of Timmy (Paulson's understudy), propping up the bondholders interests 100%.
Obama cannot continue making people think this is a totally inherited situation much longer. This was brought on through genuine bipartisanship over a couple of decades and is like the Energizer Bunny.
Insisting the budget is critical to fixing this is too much to stomach for most who care about future generations.
FAS, FAZ, SLM
Sold FAS at 6.53, sold FAZ at $19.65, bought SLM at $4.16
USL
Watching my exit stop.
Funny joke
Bill Maher, my favorite guy on tv said, and he receives full credit for this comment not me:
"Obama's been in office 30 days and he's already spent 900 billion dollars...is that black enough for you?"
BTW my best friend Mike's brother Adam Felber is the head writer on that show.
Also, Yamana is going nuts today. I feel sorry for the guy who sold it at 9.09 this morning. Talk about a kick in the pants......
See ya later!
wow! Looks like I just got a date with the prettiest girl...
BAC
BAC Long @ 7.76
[edit: Out @ 7.89--So long and thanks for all the fish!]
Re: fading the open? maybe, maybe not.
Early of course, but it's looking like those who didn't get on board yesterday at the close might be getting very nervous now.
Also another good housing #.
Does everything taste like chicken?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIReX7aRBec
Re: fading the open? maybe, maybe not.
Mark- This train's not slowing down, it's picking up speed.
Re: TCK catching a bid
Yes, and I sold Teck twice yesterday by accident.... missing today's big move!!!
bear trap/bull trap>
If I had to guess, it's the former. Fueled by (new) short positions taken on yesterday's weakness?
Re: TCK catching a bid
CP- Why didn't you just buy it right back?
Re: fading the open? maybe, maybe not.
"Also another good housing #."
Thanks Mark, that did it for me. Back in Teck now for the long haul.
25-Mar-09 UBS Upgrade Neutral Buy
Re: TCK catching a bid
Or switch to UCO....
Re: TCK catching a bid
"Why didn't you just buy it right back?"
Because it left me in the dust the second time and I didn't want to chase. I missed a big move but I'm back in to catch the rest. I'm expecting $10 or more.
This is quite funny(sad), 'Rolling Stone' article on AIG
If this has been posted already, my apologies:
http://tinyurl.com/d7hefo
TLT vs XLF
Pulled up an intraday comparative chart for yesterday & today. Jump in TLT sure telegraphed the afternoon down move in XLF. Note that TLT is moving gradually down this morning, but is still elevated vs. yesterday morning.
Bankers risks, and UCO
Bill wrote today: "Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner is on Wall Street today trying to get bankers to take on risk, which is something that is foreign to their nature." The hearings yesterday with TG and BB were discussing this. Anyone who was buying CDSs to protect themselves (as "insurance") ought to have know the risks they were incurring. We are not even talking about issuing mortgages! We wished they had never taken the risks they took!
UCO was trading exactly at 9.50 earlier today, perfect for a 9-10 straddle requiring a perfect 20% max move (from 9:55AM): http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iV5yDiKxCdk/Sco3p8IIyHI/...
The Other Side to the AIG Story
There are always 2 sides to an argument...please keep this in mind:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/25/opinion/25desant...
Keep it up Ron...it is our money!
http://www.voteronpaul.com/newsDetail.php?HR-1207-...
44 senators onboard now!
http://www.voteronpaul.com/newsDetail.php?Ron-Paul...
Ron gives a video update and dynamics involved.
Re: TCK catching a bid
CP- thanks for the heads up. I've added it to my watch list. What tells you to expect another $10.00? Just trying to follow your logic here.
S
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
1. If you are a professional amongst professionals, and your profession starts to run amok, you are known by the company you keep, so it behooves you to get the situation under control and govern the greedy.
If you are over-run by the greedy, then your profession, no matter how honorable you might be, is toast.
He feels betrayed? Give me a break. Everyone here has the true scars of betrayal, not this guy. He can afford to work for $1 year?
Tell me, who here might that apply to?
The people are betrayed. This A-hole is only slightly inconvenienced.
Look out for that door!
FAZ
Gonna take another shot; trying to get a fill under 18.50.
Keying off the fact that 1-minute CCI(20)of ES futures is over +300; suggest s-t pullback imminent.
[edit: Trying to save pennies cost me the fill; I was 10 seconds late w/ entry.]
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
"On March 16 I received a payment from A.I.G. amounting to $742,006.40, after taxes."
Poor soul. Not! Do these people realize what is $700K on how many Americans earn that kind of money?
ERX- paring back @ 28.51
Still holding a core...
Re: Bankers risks, and UCO
I'm thick as 2 bricks Si02.
The 20% move you're referring to is the percentage the underlying stock must rise or drop in order to profit from the $1.40 premium you paid. Is this correct?
how many fund mgrs want to get caught holding cash EOQ?
...
Re: Bankers risks, and UCO
Correct. In this case it is easy. A stock price of $11.40 or $7.60 covers the full cost of the straddle, assuming the wrong side goes to $nil, which of course won't be the case with so many days to expiration. Roughly ~60%, give or take, of the move will do it now.
FRONTLINE excerpt from former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill
From former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill's interview with Frontline:
[The national debt] is going up every day. ...
Here's the fundamental problem: How much money can a society borrow before it begins to have negative effects on our ability to borrow any more? ... When you get to the point that people won't loan you any more money as a government, you've got a horrendous problem. And it's happened to governments -- in Argentina, most famously, in recent times. Mexico was kind of in that situation until we gave them a very big loan.
... Now, what happens before that is governments raise the interest rates so that people will loan them money. ... Unfortunately, when interest rates get that high, economic activity slows down, and eventually it will stop. We're not at that level yet with our $11 trillion worth of acknowledged debt, but there's a bigger problem out there, which is $53 trillion worth of unfunded liabilities that we, the American people, have signed up for. Most of the American people don't know that we have these so-called unfunded liabilities. An important part of that is Social Security and Medicare. ...
... This financial crisis in retrospect will look like a child's game compared to what we're headed into when we have to begin raising enormous amounts of money through floating debt, or reneging on the obligations we made to people that they thought were good and clear from Social Security benefits and Medicare benefits. ...
I would invite people who think you can wish this away simply by denying it -- they need to spend enough time to investigate the facts for themselves. And if they can still believe that, I'd say they need remedial education in arithmetic. This is not a problem of quantum physics; this is about simple arithmetic, and the American people need to be educated about the simple arithmetic that's going to kick our teeth in not too far down the road. ...
Right now we've got this financial crisis, and one day we're spending $700 billion, and the next day that gets trumped by "That's not enough; we need another $300 billion." And then we have people saying, "That's not enough; we need $500 to $700 billion more." And so if that's all right and there are no limitations, why don't we make it $4 trillion, or $10 [trillion]?
... Why don't we just give every American a million dollars a year if it's really in our power to endlessly borrow money? And this is what I mean by education. People need to understand why if $1 trillion is good, $10 trillion isn't better.
... We could get ourselves into a position where people won't take our paper anymore. And that's a really desperate position to be in when we've killed the idea of good faith and credit of the United States. That could destroy our society as we've known it.
... You're asking a very radical question: Could the federal government lose its AAA rating? And the answer is yes. We dare not let that happen, but the answer is yes.
Re: TCK catching a bid
"What tells you to expect another $10.00? Just trying to follow your logic here."
I'm not expecting another $10, I'm expecting a move to $10 area. Anyway, this mornings UBS upgrade forecast $7.34 USD but I don't know their time horizon... Why am I thinking $10? First I'll say my theory isn't scientific, but orders should start picking up and Teck will survive their debt load IMO. Once positive news emerges we'll reach $10 I expect... Canada's largest with 100yr supply of metallurgical coal and looming big debt.
DYODD please
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
teamonfuego -
So the NYTimes just closed the sale of its last asset, it's Manhattan highrise, to keep publishing CRAP like this jerk's resignation letter to his AIG boss. This guy tries to redeem himself by 'donating' an outlandish $741,000 bonus appropriated from the U.S. taxpayer to 'charities' of his choosing to 'control' it as some noble gesture. He even goes so far to say that it's not a tax gimmick when it will certainly allow him to avoid income tax.
Are you suggesting I should feel sympathy? If he talks like a crook, walks like a crook, smells like a crook, well, teamonfuego, maybe he is a crook. Charity my a**.
Re: Bankers risks, and UCO
Hey Les - I'll add my 2 bricks worth! Know there are others here trying to play ketchup with some of the more advanced and skilled hands. So SiO2 you'd be helping at least one other with your explanation. Thanks in advance.
S
ABX barrick whats up?
what is going on with Barrick gold, cant seem to break above the 50/200 MA's while all the sr. golds are on the move.
i am eternally suspicious of this company, and their hedging program, they seem to go down when all others move up. its holding back the ETF's because of its juggernaut status. when will they ever get their act together?
Weak volume across the board
Guys and Gals, take a look at the volume across the board on tech, financials, precious metals. realtively speaking at 11am are we on track for bullish volume? i personally don't.
Thoughts?
World of Wonders
I hired one of my longtime friends in the heavy equipment biz to tear down an old building on my property the last few days.
His crew is really great and one of his employees is the 'ground crew', the gopher. His name is Clinton and he is a savant.
He is one of the most incredible people I have ever met. He lives with his brother, Ian, as he can't really take care of himself....but, ask him what he was doing on February, 21, 1983 (any day really) and he can tell you the day of the week, what grade you were in that year, and what he was doing that day...EXACTLY. He remembers every person he ever met and scared the heck out of me with his mathematical ability.
He was a year behind my daughter in school, remembers her name, her age, what courses she was taking, her friends, her birthday....and he hasn't seen her since high school.
The old building was built in 1908. Clinton knew instantly who was President when it was built. TR was President. I had no clue.
I tell you, I can take care of myself, get around alright, they say I'm 'gifted'. After Clinton I feel really stupid.
Re: TCK catching a bid
CP,
If you're confident of TCK going to $10, you could sell April $7.50 puts for $1.60, no?
Not that you necessarily want to play chicken (excuse the pun) in such a manner, but the theory is correct, isn't it?
Re: Weak volume across the board
Maybe they're waiting for the last hour?
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
AIG share price is in a free fall yesterday and today.
Looks like the tax payers are going to loose 165 billion in the near future, where can they send their resignation letters.
If AIG is looking for sympathy, try releasing internal confidential information that people give a crap about.
AIG down 12.5% at mid day trading, and no recovery in sight.
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
He openly admits to being paid a ton. However, the point is that people's anger against people like this getting bonuses, even though he had nothing to do with the mess created by the CDS's and he is the one cleaning up the mess, is misguided. Cuomo threatening to release the names of these people is a really dangerous move, especially given that many or most of those people had nothing to do with the mess. Cuomo is inciting the mob and giving them names to go after. That is reckless.
Short UCO, ERX
at $9.80 and $28.25, respectively.
ESM9
Approaching 816.50 recent intraday support; I think it's gonna fail. {It just did...}
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
Do you get a 'bonus' for doing your job?
This bonus BS is BOGUS. His profession, his crowd, is guilty. If he was truly worried, he should have resigned when the theft was occurring and drawn attention to it, not afterward. No, he stayed on and made his nut.
How honorable.
Re: TCK catching a bid
"If you're confident of TCK going to $10, you could sell April $7.50 puts for $1.60, no?"
Swiss - Perhaps, but I already have enough trouble with the abstract nature of today's market without adding to the complexity. Selling twice by accident yesterday is proof enough to me that selling puts and buying calls is beyond my capacity.
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
teamom, yes that may be reckless, but the issue is not just who was responsible for CDSs, it's the overpayment of these people too.
We should not forget that this is still peanuts compared with what HB&B are taking home from the TARP via AIG and they are taking our eyes off the ball.
Now, on a similar note, the average world’s highest-earning hedge fund managers took home, on average, $464 million apiece in 2008.
http://www.iimagazine.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=2...
Sadly, we on Skype could not find our names on the list.
SLM
closed out at 4.16
Re: Weak volume across the board
NYUGrad
I am hesitant to put too much emphasis on volume. I think the crash below DJIA 7,000 was the last straw for many retail investors and caused quite a bit of capitulation and transfer of shares from weak to strong hands.
Couple that with the swirling rumors that a global uptick rule will be put in place and I think we could continue to move higher on little volume if no one is willing to supply shares at current prices.
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
His "nut" was $1 a year and no bonus after all is said and done...for generating profits for the company.
ERY
Trying to get aboard....
On board, but paid a bit too much for my ticket.
IB's hidden order feature got me a discount! Got filled well below my limit price. Another reason to go with IB....
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
RE:>Now, on a similar note, the average world’s highest-earning hedge fund managers took home, on average, $464 million apiece in 2008.
...and the ex-CEO of RBS had his ground floor windows and S600 Merc smashed for good measure.
That public anger be a comin soon.
Look at Macquarie / MIC
Been holding for some time, Tempted to take some off although its only small position. Better than the other stuff i hold.
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
Do you get a 'bonus' for doing your job?
No. I haven't gotten a bonus since 2000. Maybe it's just me, but I'm a software developer and bonuses pretty much went the way of the dinosaur after the dotcom crash. And salaries have basically remained stagnant since then, too.
Re: Look at Macquarie / MIC
I Got out of MIC at a loss photogray. Low volume, slippage... uhh big mistake.
Although I see something gave it a boost today.
Re: Weak volume across the board
Volume can notably increase when hedgies, institutionals, mutual fund managers etc. hop on board . . . a number of them are holding cash, on the sidelines, perhaps nibbling or taking off (or adding to) short positions . . . the psychology factor is performance anxiety. The aforementioned don't like to underperform vs. their peers and indexes.
Remember they are piloting the big ships and we are in the smaller (hopefully speedboats) boats . . . they can make a splash when they enter the water, but we can react (turn) much quicker.
No doubt volume bears watching one way or the other.
Kindle
Have any of you purchased the Kindle? What are your opinions of it? It seems like a pretty amazing product to me. If this thing really takes off, not only could AMZN's profits skyrocket like AAPL's did with the iPod, but it could also crush retailers like BKS.
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
"Do you get a 'bonus' for doing your job?"
Sending him a frozen turkey with giblets would be overpayment IMO. Go to jail. go directly to jail. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. No more palm greasing!!!
Re: Kindle
RE:>Have any of you purchased the Kindle? What are your opinions of it?
I have an IT friend excited by it as a glorified pdf holder for all the software he uses.
Re: ERY
OG- Why? TA? Crude seems to be settling in @ 53.30. TIA
as per Reuters....may affect coal. But which way?
EPA says it could block mountaintop coal permits-yesterday
Re: World of Wonders
Craig,
Why don't you see if he can trade?
U.S. is open to enlarging special drawing rights at the IMF
http://tinyurl.com/crhpen
Housing sales "spin"
The media are spinning February new home sales big time. January is historically the lowest sales month of the year. Therefore, February has to have higher sales than January, or historical patterns are broken.
Sales should increase from Feb. through Aug., then drop from Sept. to Jan. as they do every year.
What the talking heads aren't reporting is that February sales were the lowest for any February since data collection began in 1963. And the sales weren't much above January's which was an all time low.
In today's "fugazy" marketplace, perception is all that matters for short term traders. Management of perception is the role of HB&B, government, and the media. However, for longer term considerations it is useful to understand the fundamentals.
I prefer to get my housing data analysis from blogs I consider credible such as the following two:
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/
http://housingdoom.com/
Public Anger
How to shrink a head (13 steps):
1 Decapitate enemy. If no enemy is present, one may substitute a sloth, as they were once human. It helps to cut as close as possible to the base of the neck.
2 Carrying the new trophy, flee to a river.
3 Make a long, vertical incision from the base of the neck to the crown of the head.
4 Carefully and slowly peel off the skin of the head, using a sharp knife to separate the skin of face from the facial bones. Cast the skull and brains into a river as a sacrifice to the Anaconda Spirit.
5 Turn skin inside-out and carefully scrape off all fatty tissue.
6 Tie a rope through the top of the head-skin. Immerse the skin into a pot of boiling water for up to two hours. Take care not to over-boil, as this will cause the victim's hair to fall out. Allow to cool.
7 Thread a flexible vine around the base of the neck to give it shape. Sew shut the incision and eyelids. Fix lips together with three bamboo pegs.
8 Heat several pebbles in a fire. Insert the hot stones into the neck-hole. Whirl head around by its hair to keep the stones from burning the flesh. This will cause the flesh to shrink.
9 Repeat above step with progressively smaller stones, using heated sand when stones will no longer fit through the neck-hole. Take care to re-mold the face into its original shape each time, so the enemy's features do not become distorted. This process will take approximately 20 hours, and is usually performed in one's home village.
10 Singe off the fine facial hairs.
11 Blacken the victim's face with charcoal, so the deceased's spirit cannot haunt and torment the living.
12 Hang shrunken head in the smoke of a fire to dry and cure.
13 After cooling, rub your trophy to make it shine.
Of CDOs and CEOs and being P.O.'d.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/2679390...
For your consideration.
Cheers,Z
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
teamonfuego -
How is this AIG employee left cleaning up the mess? Do tell. He took a huge bogus bonus from the U.S. taxpayer and misappropriated it while avoiding income tax and WALKED AWAY from the mess while the NYTimes publishes his scam with a sympathetic headline - "Dear A.I.G., I Quit!" - so that he can be vindicated within the environs of Central Park high society. Makes me S.I.C.K.
Cuomo's threat to name names may be dangerous but that's the nature of fighting crime in the bowels of Gothem and it's not anymore dangerous than the NYTimes publishing this jerk's - Jake DeSantis - resignation letter with his name in full daylight. Doesn't that put Jake is danger? Double standard?
Misguided? Hardly. Let's move on.
Re: as per Reuters....may affect coal. But which way?
Off hand, I think that restrictions on mountain-top coal mining would most affect coal producers operating in the eastern U.S where mountain-top mining is prevalent (and would benefit coal operations in the Powder River Basin, Wyoming).
As for prices, it would mean less potential supply to the market, so long-term it would be bullish for coal prices. With that said, I am uncertain of the percentage of total production that comes from mountain-top mines (that would be affected by a ban).
Re: FRONTLINE excerpt from former Treasury Secretary Paul ...
WoW. From a politician no less. Not normally known for blunt statements.
This line summed it up...
... We could get ourselves into a position where people won't take our paper anymore. And that's a really desperate position to be in when we've killed the idea of good faith and credit of the United States. That could destroy our society as we've known it."
and I heard Kaimu shouting in the background...
ITS THE MONEY STUPID!!!
Re: Weak volume across the board
"Remember they are piloting the big ships and we are in the smaller (hopefully speedboats) boats . . . they can make a splash when they enter the water, but we can react (turn) much quicker."
Kind of like the Somali pirates, eh?
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
i've already moved on...
Re: Weak volume across the board
And just like the Somali pirates, the larger entities use a horrible noise to deter us from attacking (CNBC, FETV, etc.)
Re: Weak volume across the board
After you collect your pirate booty, just make sure not to flip your speedboat during the getaway!
UYM
Long @ 13.35
Exited @ 13.31; 1-minute MACD went negative.
Re: World of Wonders
LOL
GEITHNER'S INCOMPETENCE SPELLED OUT!!!
Former Australian Prime Minister Savages Geithner's Performance in the Asian Crisis
Paul Keating, former Austrailian Prime Minister, gave an assessment of Timothy Geithners' performance in the Asian crisis that is sharply at odds with US reports. According to Keating, Geither completely misread the nature of the crisis, that it was the result of hot money flight, but reverted to the standard IMF "country facing currency crisis" playbook, and made a bad situation worse.
And to compound matters, the mismanagement of the Asian crisis led China to decide to build up FX reserves so it would never have to go hat in hand to the IMF. In other words, the "savings glut" that Bernanke and other economists like to portray as a cause, if not the cause, of our current financial crisis, was in response to the misguided Asian crisis program.
From the Sydney Morning Herald (hat tip reader Sean):
When Barack Obama announced his champion to rescue the world from economic ruin, it was the first time most Americans had ever heard the name Tim Geithner.
The initial impression was good....."Exactly a decade ago, he was Uncle Sam's golden-boy emissary sent into the stormy centre of what was then the world's worst financial crisis [the Asian crisis]," reported The New York Post.
The paper gushed: "Just 36 at the time, he'd been raised in Asia and knew the culture so intimately he scored successes and won confidences that other diplomats couldn't match. Geithner earned widespread plaudits for pulling together quarrelling Asian finance ministers into a $US200 billion rescue of their economies."
"A fantastic choice," said a Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi analyst, Chris Rupkey, as the Dow rose by nearly 6 per cent. Even one of Obama's political rivals, the hard-bitten Republican senator Richard Shelby, agreed Geithner was "up to the challenge".
If anyone in the US media had thought to ask a former Australian prime minister for his assessment, they would have heard a different view. And they would not have been so surprised at Geithner's performance since.
In a speech to a closed gathering at the Lowy Institute in Sydney on Thursday, Paul Keating gave a starkly different account of Geithner's record in handling the Asian crisis: "Tim Geithner was the Treasury line officer who wrote the IMF [International Monetary Fund] program for Indonesia in 1997-98, which was to apply current account solutions to a capital account crisis."
In other words, Geithner fundamentally misdiagnosed the problem. And his misdiagnosis led to a dreadfully wrong prescription.
Geithner thought Asia's problem was the same as the ones that had shattered Latin America in the 1980s and Mexico in 1994, a classic current account crisis. In this kind of crisis, the central cause is that the government has run impossibly big debts.
The solution? The IMF, the Washington-based emergency lender of last resort, will make loans to keep the country solvent, but on condition the government hacks back its spending. The cure addresses the ailment.
But the Asian crisis was completely different. The Asian governments that went to the IMF for emergency loans - Thailand, South Korea and Indonesia - all had sound public finances.
The problem was not government debt. It was great tsunamis of hot money in the private capital markets. When the wave rushed out, it left a credit drought behind.
But Geithner, through his influence on the IMF, imposed the same cure the IMF had imposed on Latin America and Mexico. It was the wrong cure. Indeed, it only aggravated the problem.
Keating continued: "Soeharto's government delivered 21 years of 7 per cent compound growth. It takes a gigantic fool to mess that up. But the IMF messed it up. The end result was the biggest fall in GDP in the 20th century. That dubious distinction went to Indonesia. And, of course, Soeharto lost power."
Exactly who was the "gigantic fool"? It was, obviously, the man who wrote the program, Geithner, although Keating is prepared to put the then managing director of the IMF, the Frenchman Michel Camdessus, in the same category.
Worse, Keating argued, Geithner's misjudgment had done terminal damage to the credibility of the IMF, with seismic geoeconomic consequences: "The IMF is the gun that can't shoot straight. They've been making a mess of things for the last 20-odd years, and the greatest mess they made was in east Asia in 1997-98, so much so that no east Asian state will put its head in the IMF noose."
China, in particular, drew hard conclusions from the IMF's mishandling of the Asian crisis. It decided that it would never allow itself to be dependent on the IMF, or the US, or the West generally, for its international solvency. Instead, it would build the biggest war chest the world had ever seen.
Keating continued: "This has all been noted inside the State Council of China and by the Politburo. And it's one of the reasons, perhaps the principal reason, why convertibility of the renminbi remains off the agenda for China, and it's why through a series of exchange-rate interventions each day that they've built these massive reserves....
Is this some flight of Keatingesque fancy? The former deputy governor of the Reserve Bank of Australia, Stephen Grenville, doesn't think so: "After the Asian crisis, the countries of east Asia decided that they would never go to the IMF again. The IMF is taboo in east Asia. Look at the evidence. The revealed preference of the region is that no one has gone to the IMF since, even when they needed the money."
And Asian capitals know that they have no real influence over the IMF - while European governments enjoy 40 per cent of the voting power on the IMF, Japan, China and the rest of east Asia put together have only about 16 per cent....
Keating urges that the fund should be decapitated, with control passing to the governments of the Group of 20 countries whose leaders are to meet in London on April 2. The summit, which is to include China, India and Indonesia as well as Australia, is meeting to consider solutions to the global crisis.
As for The New York Post's claim that Geithner was the hero who cajoled those quarrelsome Asians into agreeing to a $US200 billion rescue, the key fact burned into the minds of Asian elites is that the US was deaf to requests for funds. Washington did not contribute a cent of its own money to any of the emergency packages. Japan and Australia were the only nations that made loans to all three of the stricken Asian countries.
Keating went on to argue that, by frightening the Chinese into building their vast $US2 trillion foreign reserves, Geithner was responsible for the build-up of tremendous imbalance in the world financial system. This imbalance, in turn, according to Keating, contributed to the global financial crisis which has since devastated the world economy....
"That is the fundamental cause of the problem - the imbalance is the fundamental cause."
MYGN Squeeze coming here soon
AGAIN it looks like.
When something is wrong.....
"It is enough for the experienced trader to perceive that something is wrong. He must not expect the tape to become a lecturer. His job is to listen for it to say "Get out!" and not wait for it to submit a legal brief for approval."
-- Jesse Livermore
Re: World of Wonders
"Why don't you see if he can trade?"
I couldn't sleep last night thinking about how to do this.
But then I realized I would be like Tom Cruise in Rainman....
ERY
Am troubled by the lack of liquidity in ERY; much lower than w/ ERX.
Re: ERY
Out @ 31.50
ERX
Long @ 28.04
Out via stop @ 28.11
Lots of slippage; stop was 28.15.
Re: Public Anger
RE:>How to shrink a head
1 Decapitate enemy...
Okaaaaaaay. Should I be mentioning this to Bill?
:)
TCK
I see CTAB bailed on TCK this morning, but I think there's more upside to come...
Re: TCK
Where did you see that CP?
GEITHNER'S INCOMPETENCE SPELLED OUT!!!
Oh My, it looks like somehow we have built a system where incompetent people play havoc of a magnitude that could send us to stone age (take AIG management, Geithner etc)..... Maybe we need to unplug ourselves from this matrix :)
Re: TCK
Daily report on CTAB activities....
closing out positions and taking profits in SMH, QQQQ, TCK, JCP, and CAT,
Re: TCK
Where did you see that?
Bill's daily
ERX
doubled down my short at $28.20.
I'm getting skeptical about today's rally on low volume. the auction fail in the UK is ominous in my opinion of the same thing happening here at some point. while it might not happen in today's afternoon auctions, i think the market will be negative going into them.
Re: TCK
Thx
Re: TCK
"closing out positions and taking profits in SMH, QQQQ, TCK, JCP, and CAT,"
Selling the Q's has got to be a shot across the bow on this rally.
IBKR
Interactive Brokers (IBKR) has taken about 10% of my (very nice, thank you) profits thus far today. Thinking of going long the stock to recapture some.
edit: Not now; on a pullback.
TLT
Dropped fairly hard at 1:00; what happened? No apparent impact on FAS/FAZ or ES futures.
Looking to get some GOLD...what play to make?
A buy and sit position. I have some stink bids in for UXG but have failed to hit them yet.
Do we, as a community, have any consensus of how to play this? Bill is calling 2K gold and I have had that same feeling for some time but have failed to pull the trigger even to trade lately. How do people feel about DGP, GDX etc.....
From other posts I know people here are skeptical of GLD.
Thoughts group?
FAS- clearing the table @ 6.38
Looking a little weak...will look for a re-entry.
Re: Looking to get some GOLD...what play to make?
See Bill's daily.
He loaded up yesterday on a couple of miners, I think.
Re: Is there a senator in the USA
Craig, there are honest, trustworthy brokers and bankers just as there are dishonest traders.
Re: FAS- clearing the table @ 6.38
I sold my FAS, BGU, SPY. Overall volume is pretty low and hitting resistance in the 8K region
Out of C
Made small profit. didnt want to turn it into a loss. Charts telling me it is about to take a dive. Really do not like the negative divergence.
It's all in the headlines..................BUY BUY BUY
U.S. Stocks Rally, Extend S&P 500’s Best Monthly Gain Since ’87
March 25 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks rose, extending the best monthly rally since 1987 for the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index, as unexpected growth in durable-goods orders and new-home sales spurred speculation the economy is stabilizing.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si...
Re: FRONTLINE excerpt from former Treasury Secretary Paul ...
Aldous Huxley said, “Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.”
Galileo, a 17th century Italian physicist said, “I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with the sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use.”
Re: FRONTLINE excerpt from former Treasury Secretary Paul ...
RE:>Galileo, a 17th century Italian physicist said, “I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with the sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use.”
Well, the church should have burnt him while they had the chance. Then none of this would have ever happened. ;)
Re: Is there a senator in the USA
"Craig, there are honest, trustworthy brokers and bankers just as there are dishonest traders."
I'm sure there are, but you, perhaps more than most, know how a business group/cohort can tarnish all.
That is why most pros belong to and are active in professional organizations with mission statements indicating quality service, a code of ethics, some type of enforcement. I know I do.
Hence we have jokes about used car salesmen, right?
Now the categories will be added to. We no longer trust politicians, bankers, brokers, lawyers and used car salesmen. As groups they'll have to earn that trust again.
Out of TNA from yesterday 17.06
Sell 200 shares TNA at 19.06 Limit GTC
03/25/09 10:08 Filled 100 at 19.06
03/25/09 10:08 Filled 100 at 19.06
SRS
Kept running down the street after this bus, but couldn't catch it.
trying a little FAZ @ 21.40
...
selling FAS too
I am back from Tahoe and I see the market gave back some of its Monday's gains. More over, as I was glancing at it today for the past half hour, I saw a sequence of lower lows. So I just sold at $6.13 1000 shares of FAS that I bought on Friday at $5.15. That's double or even triple the absolute trading gain I usually aim for. Last time I tried to time the market moves, though, I sold at the absolute daily bottom and the prices rocketed. So prepare for a rally now. :)
Re: trying a little FAZ @ 21.40/out @ 21.10
Heart's just not in it.
I am in skf
heavy at $99
Re: Kindle
I purchased a kindle and I LOVE it! I have always been a reader, but have not had time/luxury the last few years to find books and read. It is very easy to wirelessly download books/samples from Amazon. There are also so many free books, that I have read more in the last month than the last year. I can also check my basic email and google reader easily, although not elegantly. I can see the kindle price not being a barrier to ;) older people who love to read, but haven't. I'm embarrassed to say I also like to increase the font size on demand.
To sum up, people who purchase the kindle will be able to read more books and if times improve, I could see the ITunes model of downloading books to take off. Right now, it this environment, I am trying to read the free ones first before I pay for the best sellers.
I have loaded my trading pdf files onto it for perusal and reference. If I was a student, I don't think it could replace a text to mark up and dog ear the pages.
IMHO
Re: Kindle
Just for my curiosity - what kind of things do you have for your trading pdf's that you refer back to?
Re: Kindle
Thanks Miggs. I love the product from what I have seen. I'm thinking of getting it as gifts for my family.
As I write I see BKS is down 6+%...could it be because of this?
Outstanding Shares Research Question
I'm trying to find a place on the Internet to look up the amount of outstanding shares and price figures for companies that would go back in time. I can remember Intel used to have about 7 billion shares outstanding during the 2003 era if I recall. Now they have about 5.6. Most info I find in Yahoo and others only goes back 2 or 3 years. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Turning red
Nasd Dow SP turning red
1 trillion isn't near enough, Geithner give the banksters more money....please!
That won't even start to cover retention bonuses let alone a little profit so they can restart paying themselves multi million dollars salaries again.
Reload of TNA
Buy 200 shares TNA at 17.05 Limit Day
03/25/09 14:10 Filled 200 at 17.01
The next time ...
I make a remark about "not chasing", or "not catching a bus", would someone (Vad and his 2x4 perhaps) slap me upside the head and tell me to suck it up and get on board (pun?) already? Please? Thanks!
Re: The next time ...
Its all good, opportunity lost...not cash in this case. Remember, sometimes the bus unexpectedly puts it in reverse and runs you over. :')
Long Yamana
Long Yamana
update...got out lost 80 bucks story over I'm going to the beach.
Looks like the rally's over too eh?
Volume
has picked up pretty substantially on the SPY etf, which is what I use to track market volume.
Re: Kindle
It includes the Disciplined Investor and other reports I used to print out and read (or not) when I had time. I do have to convert them using a free software package before I load them onto the kindle via a USB connection. Just having them available has increased how often I refer to them. I have read that complex charts and technical documents do not convert well.
Re: Kindle
I've only had it for about a month, so I'll let you know if I experience any problems!
strategy for re-entry
Unless the market ends up with a BIG plunge down today (which will shake out many weak hands and increase the chances of a rally tomorrow), I'll just place a buy stop limit order (say on FAS) above today's closing price. The market opened higher today and then moved down. Tomorrow, the people will be weary of bidding the prices up before the open, and so the chances of a down open, I think, would be higher (unless, as I said, we have a BIG plunge today). So if I place a buy stop limit order for tomorrow, then it will either not get triggered at all (if the plunge continues) or will be caught on the way up after the market opens lower and starts to move up. This is all just speculation, of course...
big plunge in XLE took place, bought some ERX
250 shares at $26.4.
Re: selling FAS too
David- Well, you made 19% on the trade. And we both know FAS is not a buy-and-hold vehicle. So I would say you got what you wanted out of it.
TCK
Of course I get raked over the coals in both directions...
Re: selling FAS too
"And we both know FAS is not a buy-and-hold vehicle."
Well, even if XLF moves two steps forward and one step back, then FAS will still rise 4.5X over the period when XLF doubles. So FAS *can* be used as a buy-and-hold in an upward-sloping market. I have a feeling that I won't be able to re-enter FAS at a lower price than $6.13 and will feel left out when I see it at $8+.
Overall, I have a feeling that the market rally that started a couple of weeks ago will go higher than anyone thinks. It will be something like the rally that started in March of last year, which went up for 2 months despite the obviously worsening fundamentals and most people on this board eventually gave up shorting it, figuring that Paulson can print as much money as he wants and take this market to arbitrary heights.
FAS- back to 20% of allocation @ 5.62
Not saying I know when it stops dropping...
Re: selling FAS too
" I have a feeling that I won't be able to re-enter FAS at a lower price than $6.13 and will feel left out when I see it at $8+."
Then why not pick some up now @ 5.62?
COMPAQ loses
Done. The prices on pc's in Switzerland are just too interesting to pass up.
Compaq was offering a pc desktop set for 650 CHF.
My daughter went nuts when she found out it was going into her brothers (larger) room.
So for 900 CHF its a 16/9 compact widescreen Acer laptop. I've been buying Taiwanese for almost ten years now and I've never been disappointed.
Sorry, not made in USA. (but then again, is any of HP's pc's made in USA?)
Treasury Auctions
Treasury auctions were bad today...this is what i was fearing would happen last week when the fed agreed to buy up long dated treasurys. People are going to demand higher rates on treasurys because the risk profile of the u.s. is higher with all of these bailouts. If the rates on treasurys rise significantly its game set match for our economy
Re: selling FAS too
"Then why not pick some up now @ 5.62?"
I already picked up some ERX at $26.40. :) Can't make two purchases too close together, for otherwise I will run out of my buying power too soon...
Re: COMPAQ loses
Les- I guess the market was listening when you cracked your whip yesterday.
Re: Long Yamana
Been long on Yamana a while now. I'm lovin it this week. I was sorely tempted to cash out this morning though.
FAZ
Beginning to think we are near the end of this bear rally. FAZ is getting fairly close to
a macd-x on the daily chart and RSI7 is in agreement. Would probably still be several more
days before the macd finally makes that cross, and FAZ could double by then. Also seeing the beginnings of a divergence in macd histogram. Opinions?
FAZ/SRS
Nibbled a bit; in & out for small gains. Playing with entry method loosely modeled on Jesse Livermore's--buying into a trend using buy stops set at the top of each preceding 3-minute bar, trailing stops at low of preceding bar. Would've worked nicely with SRS this afternoon. Again, just playing for small change. Not advice.
Re: FAZ
volume is also increasing last few days, so i think its headed up from here
Re: FAZ
dow5300: the technical charts can be very deceiving when a large undercurrent of human emotions is in play. Both Bill Cara and 2nd_ave recognized it as "performance anxiety" among the money managers, which can drive people to buy the pull-backs for a while, until MOST of the people will turn optimistic about this rally.
Bond Prices
So if bond prices fall due to FED buying, wouldn't this wealth go elsewhere like into stocks? Follow the money. Of course there might be some hysteresis delay to accommodate conservative money's need to develop an appetite?
Sure wish I'd known to anticipate a sell off...
Re: FAZ
why not just short FAS if that's your thinking? the erosion factor on these ETFs is too much in my opinion to be buying long. i'm beginning to realize this.
I think oil was bid far too high up...inventory levels are at 16 year highs. rather than buying the 3x short i just shorted the 3x long knowing that the erosion factor is great and if i'm right I'll be safer shorting something that erodes in value.
Re: I am in skf
Fortunate timing as skf is making its move. Setting stop above my buy price now to cover my butt.
Markets began to sell off i think in conjunction with the soft debt auction by the govt, in conjunction to a natural profit taking from the recent gargantuan move.
lets see what the last hour brings.
Re: FAZ
what is your exit strategy from shorting a 3X long? While you can "wait out" any adverse moves when shorting a 3X ultra-short, you can't "waiting out" most of the adverse moves in a 3X ultra-long...
Re: I am in skf
Forgiving afternoon w/skf
Re: FAZ
I think oil is still in a downtrend. I'm not really buying into the reflation theory because leverage was so great that nothing can reflate it. plus, oil has huge amounts of inventory.
As such, in downtrends, ultra longs will get crushed. but i do get your point.
however, i'm aware I can be wrong so my trade is very short term. in this market i would prefer to just day trade or trade stuff over a few days. the volatility is great.
TNA
cut it short bad karmaCash Sell 200 shares TNA at 16.5 Stop Loss GTC
03/25/09 15:15 Filled 200 at 16.5099
Re: ERX
teamonfuego, I assume you are talking about shorting ERX, right? In any case, how do you explain the fact that with oil now much higher than it was 2 months ago, XLE is now at about its lowest point in January? Shouldn't the shares of oil stocks reflect the rising price of oil? Or do you think that the stock traders do not believe the rising oil price, thinking that it is just a temporary phenomenon?
Re: FAS- back to 20% of allocation @ 5.62/out @ 6.01
taking the 7% and not looking back...
Martin Wolf in FT - thought-provoking as ever!
Wolf fears that either banks won't part with their toxic assets for the prices offered by the hedgies&gov't, OR private equity and hedge funds will make huge profits, and be scorned by the public and by Congress.
In either case, Geithner's new plan won't recapitalize the banks - which he believes necessary to the tune of hundreds of billions or more.
Would the private sector some months down the road invest fresh capital into banks with discredited management? Would Congress be willing to recapitalize the banks?
Seems to me, the gov't will end up taking over the big busted banks (as FDIC does every week with smaller banks)but only after playing out 2 or 3 lame new programs, - by which time the markets and economy will be in a much worse state.
Am I missing something?
or would you rather talk about how you successfully traded 100 shares of C today?
Re: ERX
"Or do you think that the stock traders do not believe the rising oil price, thinking that it is just a temporary phenomenon?"
you nailed it. that's my thinking.
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
This man understandably feels betrayed, but he is obviously in much better shape financially than millions of others whose jobs were exported during what once was known as the "prime earning years".
I have a list of 65 individuals — my friends, relatives or their children — who were forced into early retirement, just plain fired or lost their own businesses, since the advent of NAFTA (the semi-official beginning) of globalization and the switch to a service economy.
The current subprime & other aspects of financial scamming has made things even worse these people. If he was wise enough to save while making this tidy annual salary he will still be better off than most.
Many have been accessing their retirement funds pre-59.5 and getting docked 10%. Many are behind on their payments on houses which they've been unable to sell to move to where a job is.
My cousin's son, age 47, a computer programmer (formerly at an aero-space company) two college age kids, has been staying with friends while working for WalMart and getting home one weekend a month for over two years.
There is much more of this to come for far too many hard working people.
Worst of all no one is doing anything to punish those who caused all of this!
missed all of FAS
Darn day job! Why won't they just pay me yet leave me alone!
out of ABX ugh.
ugly position i took in barrick last week as part of a basket of majors.
i sold the ABX portion after seeing its inability to make a move up the past few days. its looking like it wants to plunge down if gold doesnt keep moving up. the 50/200 MA's are proving to be formidable resistance. wont get back in until they can clear through.
GG and NEM looking great though. cant figure out whats up w/ ABX at this point, but im growing concerned. if they do make much of a move on a rally to $1000 i wont be convinced the big one has started yet. will watch volume on any downside to get a clue. if its huge, its a signal a downside correction in gold may be on the horizon. if its limp, them mabey its just a late starter.
lets hope the latter is true
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
"...the average world’s highest-earning hedge fund managers took home, on average, $464 million apiece in 2008."
And they will still be allowed to pay the tax in the 15% bracket, I believe.
market action
Looks like people are still buying pull-backs -- the "performance anxiety" is working!
Re: GEITHNER'S INCOMPETENCE SPELLED OUT!!!
Same assessment in a nutshell...
EU presidency: US economic plans 'a way to hell'
By RAF CASERT, The Associated Press
6:10 a.m. March 25, 2009
STRASBOURG, France — A top European Union politician on Wednesday slammed U.S. plans to spend its way out of recession as "a way to hell."
Czech Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek, whose country currently holds the EU presidency, told the European Parliament that President Barack Obama's massive stimulus package and banking bailout "will undermine the stability of the global financial market."
Re: The Other Side to the AIG Story
if the hedge fund guy used unfair means to earn his money, he/she must be punished with all force of law. We must make all necessary laws/monitoring bodies to make sure that they dont have any information advantage. But if the playing field is level, i dont see any reason why i should object to the hedge fund guy earning money but not Warren Buffet or Bill Gates or Sergey Brin (where do i stop with saying how much are they qualified to earn in a moral sense?)
Re: Treasury Auctions
teamonfuego - "If the rates on treasurys rise significantly its game set match for our economy"
Wasn't it in Top Gun Cougar said to Maverick "Game Over Dude, Game Over!"
Re: ERX
On the other hand, the XLE price chart does show a pretty linear ascend for the past 2 weeks, and a pull-back in that chart is in order. So I have just trimmed down my oversized ERX position by selling at $26.43 the shares I bought earlier today at $26.40.
Lewis Statement
Ken Lewis CEO, BAC..... issues statement that Bank Of America will "start" Tarp repayment as soon as next month.
Here comes the million dollar bonuses for the irreplaceable BAC brokers.
Come seven, come 11.
Now all Lewis has to do is issue the bonuses for a overlooked prior year performance, 2005 or 2006, as long as he stays clear of 2008. People are so busy struggling to survive they'll never catch on!
Re: ERX
What a bad example of day trading (my ERX trade today): buying too early, selling too early. I really trade much better in my sleep, so I should stick to that. :)
Re: Treasury Auctions
I believe you are thinking of Bill Paxton in Aliens where he said "Game over, man, game over!"
Re: GEITHNER'S INCOMPETENCE SPELLED OUT!!!
I strongly disagree with the term "incompetence". In my view he's accomplishing exactly what he desires.
Using a term like incompetence distracts from a focus on the end result. However it is they are achieving what they are achieving, the fact remains that an outcome is being delivered.
This was better spelled out during Bush's term and labeled "The Incompetence Dodge".
Out of skf small gain. that thing moves
that was a nice comeback for the markets
Today's Market
I know I'm new at this, but what the heck just happened. Got to head out...can't wait to get back and read the comments!
Re: ERX
David - I think it's best to buy on the extreme bearishness and sell on the extreme bullishness. Today was a prime example of this.
It's not easy, though.
Ask yourself: is it any coincidence that the market was in the middle of breaking support around 800 that BAC came out and announced they will repay their TARP funds early right before close? This is a game and we're the ones being gamed.
10-Year Treasuries
On the day Ben starts buying up t-bills, looks like a big sovereign holder countered his stupidity.
http://stockcharts.com/charts/gallery.html?$TNX
Bye bye USD.
Re: ERX
Hmmm, people are feeling like left out and bought at the end. David, I think ERX follows market instead of energy prices.
Re: ERX
Also Moody's had bad news about BAC during market hours. These rating agencies need to report Pre or post market instead of delivering news during market hours.
Disclosure: Long BAC (A.K.A. bag holder) , 60% long US stocks, 40% cash.
Re: COMPAQ loses
ha, think you spoke too soon there 2nd.
but the monkey into close suggests, IMHO, an early sell off possible on opening tomorrow?
Tough market to be trading in, from my novice viewpoint.
Re: 10-Year Treasuries
I actually disagree with this concept of the dollar going down. Why does it have to go down? Higher rates on Treasurys doesn't always result in a lower dollar.
Re: Treasury Auctions
RE:>Wasn't it in Top Gun Cougar said to Maverick "Game Over Dude, Game Over!
Ah now you're talking my youth!
FD: I'm 34. Does that still qualify me as young in this crowd??
No. Cougar lost it, turned in his wings.
That be wolf man at the beach volley ball court.
night all.
Daniel Hannan speaks out
I didn't realize how parallel the US and UK were in this financial crisis and loss of jobs. Can you see a US president sitting and being lectured by a congressman about his incompetence? Major US Financial newspapers aren't even chosen to ask pre approved set of questions to a US president anymore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs
SKF
No kidding NYU....
Was in at 98 and sold at 106, then flipped to FAS and held on until just before the close.
I was a little early on SKF but lucked out. Nice que by both you and then 2nd on FAS. Why am I not surprised? I got faked out of FAS at 6.03, but got back in when the XLF turned positive. Positively whacky!
Re: 10-Year Treasuries
Then why is there a higher yield?
It's supply and demand. I hope we didn't do away with that...LOL!
Re: Treasury Auctions
"Bill Paxton in Aliens where he said "Game over, man, game over!"
Yes, that's the one! Speaking of aliens, congress should prepare some special H1B visas to replace all the deserters from the banking industry. They could call them H1B&B's.
Re: oil
"I think oil was bid far too high up...inventory levels are at 16 year highs."
But then, the bottom of the oil price during this cycle will have to occur when the inventories are at their highest levels, right? It is natural for inventories to keep increasing but the oil price starting to move higher as the forward looking traders are starting to buy. Do you believe that the inventories will be increasing for much longer than the analysts are currently predicting?
THE FOOLS IN CONGRESS!!!
Dear A.I.G., I Quit!
The following is a letter sent on Tuesday by Jake DeSantis, an executive vice president of the American International Group’s financial products unit, to Edward M. Liddy, the chief executive of A.I.G.
DEAR Mr. Liddy,
It is with deep regret that I submit my notice of resignation from A.I.G. Financial Products. I hope you take the time to read this entire letter. Before describing the details of my decision, I want to offer some context:
I am proud of everything I have done for the commodity and equity divisions of A.I.G.-F.P. I was in no way involved in — or responsible for — the credit default swap transactions that have hamstrung A.I.G. Nor were more than a handful of the 400 current employees of A.I.G.-F.P. Most of those responsible have left the company and have conspicuously escaped the public outrage.
After 12 months of hard work dismantling the company — during which A.I.G. reassured us many times we would be rewarded in March 2009 — we in the financial products unit have been betrayed by A.I.G. and are being unfairly persecuted by elected officials. In response to this, I will now leave the company and donate my entire post-tax retention payment to those suffering from the global economic downturn. My intent is to keep none of the money myself.
I take this action after 11 years of dedicated, honorable service to A.I.G. I can no longer effectively perform my duties in this dysfunctional environment, nor am I being paid to do so. Like you, I was asked to work for an annual salary of $1, and I agreed out of a sense of duty to the company and to the public officials who have come to its aid. Having now been let down by both, I can no longer justify spending 10, 12, 14 hours a day away from my family for the benefit of those who have let me down.
You and I have never met or spoken to each other, so I’d like to tell you about myself. I was raised by schoolteachers working multiple jobs in a world of closing steel mills. My hard work earned me acceptance to M.I.T., and the institute’s generous financial aid enabled me to attend. I had fulfilled my American dream.
I started at this company in 1998 as an equity trader, became the head of equity and commodity trading and, a couple of years before A.I.G.’s meltdown last September, was named the head of business development for commodities. Over this period the equity and commodity units were consistently profitable — in most years generating net profits of well over $100 million. Most recently, during the dismantling of A.I.G.-F.P., I was an integral player in the pending sale of its well-regarded commodity index business to UBS. As you know, business unit sales like this are crucial to A.I.G.’s effort to repay the American taxpayer.
The profitability of the businesses with which I was associated clearly supported my compensation. I never received any pay resulting from the credit default swaps that are now losing so much money. I did, however, like many others here, lose a significant portion of my life savings in the form of deferred compensation invested in the capital of A.I.G.-F.P. because of those losses. In this way I have personally suffered from this controversial activity — directly as well as indirectly with the rest of the taxpayers.
I have the utmost respect for the civic duty that you are now performing at A.I.G. You are as blameless for these credit default swap losses as I am. You answered your country’s call and you are taking a tremendous beating for it.
But you also are aware that most of the employees of your financial products unit had nothing to do with the large losses. And I am disappointed and frustrated over your lack of support for us. I and many others in the unit feel betrayed that you failed to stand up for us in the face of untrue and unfair accusations from certain members of Congress last Wednesday and from the press over our retention payments, and that you didn’t defend us against the baseless and reckless comments made by the attorneys general of New York and Connecticut.
My guess is that in October, when you learned of these retention contracts, you realized that the employees of the financial products unit needed some incentive to stay and that the contracts, being both ethical and useful, should be left to stand. That’s probably why A.I.G. management assured us on three occasions during that month that the company would “live up to its commitment” to honor the contract guarantees.
That may be why you decided to accelerate by three months more than a quarter of the amounts due under the contracts. That action signified to us your support, and was hardly something that one would do if he truly found the contracts “distasteful.”
That may also be why you authorized the balance of the payments on March 13.
At no time during the past six months that you have been leading A.I.G. did you ask us to revise, renegotiate or break these contracts — until several hours before your appearance last week before Congress.
I think your initial decision to honor the contracts was both ethical and financially astute, but it seems to have been politically unwise. It’s now apparent that you either misunderstood the agreements that you had made — tacit or otherwise — with the Federal Reserve, the Treasury, various members of Congress and Attorney General Andrew Cuomo of New York, or were not strong enough to withstand the shifting political winds.
You’ve now asked the current employees of A.I.G.-F.P. to repay these earnings. As you can imagine, there has been a tremendous amount of serious thought and heated discussion about how we should respond to this breach of trust.
As most of us have done nothing wrong, guilt is not a motivation to surrender our earnings. We have worked 12 long months under these contracts and now deserve to be paid as promised. None of us should be cheated of our payments any more than a plumber should be cheated after he has fixed the pipes but a careless electrician causes a fire that burns down the house.
Many of the employees have, in the past six months, turned down job offers from more stable employers, based on A.I.G.’s assurances that the contracts would be honored. They are now angry about having been misled by A.I.G.’s promises and are not inclined to return the money as a favor to you.
The only real motivation that anyone at A.I.G.-F.P. now has is fear. Mr. Cuomo has threatened to “name and shame,” and his counterpart in Connecticut, Richard Blumenthal, has made similar threats — even though attorneys general are supposed to stand for due process, to conduct trials in courts and not the press.
So what am I to do? There’s no easy answer. I know that because of hard work I have benefited more than most during the economic boom and have saved enough that my family is unlikely to suffer devastating losses during the current bust. Some might argue that members of my profession have been overpaid, and I wouldn’t disagree.
That is why I have decided to donate 100 percent of the effective after-tax proceeds of my retention payment directly to organizations that are helping people who are suffering from the global downturn. This is not a tax-deduction gimmick; I simply believe that I at least deserve to dictate how my earnings are spent, and do not want to see them disappear back into the obscurity of A.I.G.’s or the federal government’s budget. Our earnings have caused such a distraction for so many from the more pressing issues our country faces, and I would like to see my share of it benefit those truly in need.
On March 16 I received a payment from A.I.G. amounting to $742,006.40, after taxes. In light of the uncertainty over the ultimate taxation and legal status of this payment, the actual amount I donate may be less — in fact, it may end up being far less if the recent House bill raising the tax on the retention payments to 90 percent stands. Once all the money is donated, you will immediately receive a list of all recipients.
This choice is right for me. I wish others at A.I.G.-F.P. luck finding peace with their difficult decision, and only hope their judgment is not clouded by fear.
Mr. Liddy, I wish you success in your commitment to return the money extended by the American government, and luck with the continued unwinding of the company’s diverse businesses — especially those remaining credit default swaps. I’ll continue over the short term to help make sure no balls are dropped, but after what’s happened this past week I can’t remain much longer — there is too much bad blood. I’m not sure how you will greet my resignation, but at least Attorney General Blumenthal should be relieved that I’ll leave under my own power and will not need to be “shoved out the door.”
Sincerely,
Jake DeSantis
Re: Treasury Auctions
"Ah now you're talking my youth!"
Okay, just don't trust anyone past their mid seventies, they're not too worried about much of anything at that point. Top Gun is a very distant memory for me, just remembering the handle "Maverick" was nearly impossible... Alas, I got the wrong movie regardless.
Re: 10-Year Treasuries
Re. "It's supply and demand. I hope we didn't do away with that...LOL!"
Why, yes they did. Nobody wanted the toxic waste of mortgages and CDSs, now HB&B will fight for it to make Billions out of it, all paid for by your grandchildren.
Carlos Slim - King of the Mexico ETF
Companies controlled by Carlos Slim now comprise 43.75% of the EWW Mexico ETF!
24% america movil
12% telmex
4.75% carso global telecom
3% grupo carso
43.75% - carlos slim !
I guess Mexico will soon have half their eggs in Slim's baskets, and the other half in the drug cartels'!
Re: Long Yamana
in AUY leaps and loving it.
Nice piece on Gold this am by Bill. My comment is:
What motivation would the gubermints of the world have to lessen their influence on Gold and not have Wall Street insiders to help? Possibly honesty, fairness, integrity and social equity. However, those qualities don't motivate those who rule. They are ideals that we are aware of, and they sound good. When they rule a business, a home an individual, it is beautiful. However, I doubt O'bama will have the motivation to chase down the capital market problems that Bill see's. Instead, the way Timmy and Ben have spoken lately on "the need for more Fed and Treasury power" in capital markets, we are probably being set up for a stronger FED with a strangle hold on the Treasury Dept......then enter China and it's talk on the buck, growing concerns in the middle east in the coming months and years and poof! Oil and Gold seem like the biggest winners......IMHO :-)
I have taken Bills que's on Gold these past few months and am learning to trade the miners...it's working, but I'm still a novice. BA of late, and CVX seems to work when bought on weakness. If Gold goes to 2000 the next year or so, I will be in great shape.
I'm wondering how many weak treasury auctions it is going to take before the FED become's the biggest buyer?
Have a great week every one.
Re: 10-Year Treasuries
teamonfuego -
I agree with you but only on a short term basis.
Debt monetization (Treasury buying treasuries; reflation) started today to avoid repudiation of debt (default to the bondholders: Chinese, Japanese, Saudi Arabia, et al.) and to pay for the runaway TARP and stimulus = probable future inflation (weak dollar) when velocity of money returns. Too much fiat money printed into the system will be chasing too few goods (bubble economy x2). History gives consistent proof of this condition. Scroll through this real quick: http://tinyurl.com/6r94m9
Higher rates on Treasuries = exodus (Treasury bubble pops) and more monetization by Ben to pay runaway national debt bill = eventual hyperinflation. I read that foreign purchase of U.S. Treasuries dropped off the cliff today (Chinese are done buying junk U.S. dollar and advocating IMF currency while Polosi endorsed the move to this new super currency!). Hello.
If velocity of money does not return (banks don't start lending again), we continue to deflate (price collapse; oversupply of houses, tanning salons, plastic surgeons, and new duelly twin cab trucks) and dollar will be in a race to drop in concert with other currencies (quantitative easing; central bank rates drop to zero) as we've seen recently with no way to recover IF reflation experiment fails. Maybe then Congress stops drinking Fed's Kool Aid. This is underway with severe contraction in global economic activity (double-digit unemployment; bankruptcies abound [See GM]; Bernie Madoff; mortgage default rate keeps climbing; Trophy wives take 'Divorce for Dummies' to number one the the NYTimes bestseller list; blaa, blaa, blaa).
Either way, dollar eventually destabilizes IF the reflation game fails like it did today (See Kaimu and mouse money).
Cheers.
How Does New Administration View US economy?
Here's a summary from the White House Office of Management and Budget:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/assets/fy2010_new_er...
Been hearing a lot about a National tea party lately
so I googled it.
Looks like April 15 is going to be the start of some history making protests.
I can't remember a big National organized protest since the Vietnam War protests of the late 60's and early 70's when those Kent State college kids were killed.
Nixon was so scared he organized a Commission for Campus Unrest to study the disorder, and violence on the college campuses. I'm assuming the commission labeled the students terrorists and ordered tear gas and billy clubs to beat some sense into the college kids.
I hope there isn't a bad out come with these tea party protests. United the people stand, divided they fall.
I can't believe just how many organizers in different states there are behind this protest.
http://www.teapartyday.com/Locations.aspx
edit....There is a national debt clock you can check out on all their pages.
Re: 10-Year Treasuries
"
Re. "It's supply and demand. I hope we didn't do away with that...LOL!"
Why, yes they did. Nobody wanted the toxic waste of mortgages and CDSs, now HB&B will fight for it to make Billions out of it, all paid for by your grandchildren."
HB&B will be held responsible for repaying their loans, and hopefully accountable for the economic damage created. Let's not overlook the role conflicted interests had in setting up this, greatest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind.
Re: Outstanding Shares Research Question
Rosevillebill,
Try MSN Money Central, financial info is better than Yahoo. They all are often out of date and contain the odd error but I do use this one, when I need financial stuff and it has a 10 year summary table. As shown below for INTC.
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/result...
Omg
Debt monetization by the fed is not to avoid repudiation if debt.
The auction was a bad omen and the market isn't happy with the actions by the fed and congress.
This is a double edge sword because many central banks own bonds of banks and INS companies.
Also sovereign funds and elitists.
Now we missed the boat, there will be NO HYPER inflation. None not for a long time or until 20-30% of the s&p goes under.
There will be no reflation until the bad debt is paid/defaulted. The game that Ben is playing is there only to benefit those he serves and that isn't tax payers. If it was we would vote him out. Get that?
There will not be velocity if people have no jobs, afraid of losing their jobs,are leveraged to much or have to much debt, don't want to borrow and don't want to spend/consume. Please understand that. Social mood has shifted and that is the market.
Savings rare will increase and eventually the fudged government numbers won't be able to hide that, increase spending numbers.
On higher borrowing costs for the government WILL not mean inflation, this will lead to massive deflation. This will lead to a bond collapse in the private sector! The government has the unlimited con I mean taxing authority to raise income. Sure tax receipts will be about 60% of what the government thinks they will collect and yes that will play tricks on the dollar.
The dollar is a better currency than the EURo because it is a real currency euro is not.
When us bond rates go way up, it will be reguarded as a pop bubble. No way, we can print payments with the hegemony and we can raise taxes. When those rates get high enough they will look attractive to investors as risk return. Money will flee from private bonds to public bonds, private bonds will collapse companies will not be able to afford to finance operations becuase spreads are to high over government debt! Companies will dissapear and so will debt, it will default the supply of dollars will dissapear and that worthless currency that we call the us peso will have value because of supply down and demand up for higher returns.
We are borrowing a ton but Japan has a 170% public debt to gdp. Did they ever have inflation? Nope and they did this without a hegemony.
Look at the other side of the coin. Over the next two to four years emotions are going to pull and push from every direction. We will think the dollar is going to collapse but it won't.
We will think gold will moonshoot and keep going but it won't. It will go up a bunch! But it won't stay there, necessity will be importance.
Stay logical not emotional.
Heli Ben's grand experiment will fail as you can't serve the few in hope to prosper the market is mug bigger than that.
Monetary supply increase is not inflation, driving down the long en of the curve only subsidized rates and pulls a little more demand forward, not inflation. The Fed will not allow stores money supply into the economy, they are only recycling it to keep banking assets (consumer loans credits) artificially high. Eventually it will default and the debt will be destoyed.
Net net we spent and borrowed to much, until the cycle clears we will experiance a malaise as intervention prohibits natural market corrections.
The scary part of what my soap box talk is political implications from the consistant blunders!
---forgive my spelling and typos. Post from cell phone.
Could not resist!
:)
Edit: with the consumer at record low savings rate, are they going to buy stuff on credit like cars at 20% interest?
Oh with 10% u3 rates?
Or higher. No way. Companies have been spoiled along with consumers over the last two decades if artificially low rates. This allows for cheap consumption which fuels velocity and creates inflation.
That era is gone. Welcome to paying cash and buying when you new it. Yes people will still finance stuff.
Re: Outstanding Shares Research Question
Thanks Quasi, I like that 10 year historical look.
I pulled the following info from my broker. The company financial statements only go to 2004. There's a ton of other info that goes back a lot further, but I would have to do a lot of cutting and pasting and then do the math and hope I didn't make any errors and account for a bunch of other variables. In the example below I can see MSFT and INTC have actually reduced outstanding shares, whereas BIDZ has not. I think it's an interesting metric that would be easier to look at, especially if you could see a 20 year history.
2008 2007 2006 2005 2004
Total Common Shares Outstanding for Intel
5,562 5,818 5,766 5,919 6,253
Total Common Shares Outstanding for Microsoft
9,151 9,380 10,062 10,710 10,862
Total Common Shares Outstanding for BIDZ
22,918 24,556 23,234 23,313 11,923
Re: 10-Year Treasuries
I've read the Zimbabwe story and I don't see any similarities between them and us so any reference to it makes little sense in my mind.
My belief is that the leverage placed throughout our entire economy over the past 15 years will cause deflation for at least a few more years regardless of the printing that goes on. The value of our currency will continue to be strong relative to other currencies even though it seems logical that it will be weak due to printing (in my mind this logic ignores the huge leverage throughout the entire system that trumps any printing). The fact is this printing of money has not been released into the economy in any way...it is just making banks whole on some crappy investments. Banks aren't lending this money because they need it just to remain solvent, although even that is debatable. These same banks haven't written down their assets to properly reflect the true value of them.
I'm realizing how dumb it is to get rid of MTM...banks will only value them at prices that allow them to remain solvent...by not properly valuing these they will always have these crappy underperforming assets on their balance sheets causing them to be less reluctant to loan because they will be worried about these underperforming assets continuing to turn into losses. And this PPIP plan assumes that banks will be willing to sell assets at a market price of say $.60 on the dollar when they are in fact currently valued at $0.85 on the dollar. The banks have little room to move as far as taking additional losses because of their required reserve ratios, forcing them to only take offers that will keep them solvent. This is a huge problem with this whole bailout system the Fed/Treasury has put into place. It causes significant stagnation just like the Japanese experienced in the 90's.
So I see a world where the price of oil bottoms at $15-20 USD/barrel, where the S&P bottoms somewhere around 450-500, where the price of gold ranges somewhere between 750 and 1000, and where the government released unemployment rate peaks at 11-12% (while the rate including those looking for jobs and not finding them and those working part time b/c they cant find a FT job going to 20%).
This doesnt mean we all can't trade this market. I'm just going with the flow and know that I can be wrong.
HR 1388 Passes in House - "Required Volunteerism" from our kids!
Okay NOW I'm oficially pissed!!!!! Wake up people - they're using this crisis to go after a lot more than your wallet now. With ACORN and the Census Takeover already secured, do you trust their intentions behind this one? Big Brother already has too much influence over my kids as it is! Now this...
HR 1388, the G.I.V.E. Act was
passed in the House last Wednesday, very quietly, under the hubub of the
AIG mess. This will require 3 years of volunteerism for our youth if
passed in the Senate.
Urgent calls are needed to our Senators requesting that they vote no.
1-800-828-0498 will connect you with the switchboard in D.C., then you
can direct your call from there.
It is felt that this will basically be a move to "re-educate" or
indoctrinate our youth through after school programs in the earlier
grades, to full time service upon graduation.
Do your own research, then call your Senators. Early Wednesday am would work.
Re: strategy for re-entry/FAS rules
David- Before you place any buy limit orders, let me run this by you. Thanks to an email from babybear, I've been pondering the best way to beat the volatility decay in the 3x funds. My opening shot would be:
(a) Minimize your holding period. Intraday, if possible. There will be times you miss a gap up the following morning. But you get to pat yourself on the back on the overwhelming majority of days it gaps down.
(b) The only exception to (a)? A bet the current trend continues in your favor for at least another day. You will have to determine your own odds/use your own risk tolerance, but there will be days when gap up odds will be, say, 2:1. For me, it's worth a stack of chips.
(c) Sit back and relax. Something you're already good at. Sip coffee. Play music. Open your mail. There will usually be a time during the day (if not this one, then certainly the next) when it takes off in one direction or the other. You want a reasonable drop/spike, at least 10-15%. Then spend a minute or two opening a position (long or short).
(d) Once you've opened a position, you will need to sit back again, but only a zombie would be able to truly relax (keeping position size 'reasonable' [something you need to work out for yourself] is one way to do it). You should have some kind of streaming quote going somewhere in the background. The position will almost always reverse. When it hits your target (again, make it reasonable), waste no time. No need to wait for outsize gains (let's say >20-25%) because, let's face it, you haven't worked that hard!
Don't make the mistake of waiting for outsize gains. Although I took partial profits at 7.34 yesterday, I let 7+ go by several times the past two days for the remainder of the position, waiting for a spike to 8, before settling for 6.38 today. Had I not hesitated to sell into the opening euphoria this morning, I probably would have taken a larger position at 5.62, and held out for more than 6.01. Psychology rules when it comes to playing- it's all mental.
Todays action
2nd- Any take on today's market. I'm glad I missed the "2nd" act, as I am sure I would have played it wrong. I tried to re-buy the shares of TNA I sold shortly after the open near the close but the darn thing went from -6% to + 8% in about 15 minutes. Net-net +3 % on the day.
Re your FAZ comment...I felt the same way filling out my Hoops bracket, handing over a C-note. Go CAL!...oh yeah, 1 and out.
Re: HR 1388 Passes in House - "Required Volunteerism" from ...
Jack,
Ontario has a mandatory community service requirement for students in order to graduate from high school. Each student is required to put in 40 hours of community service time (10 hours per year). It is up to the student to make the contacts and find something suitable. The types of activities and organizations are wide-ranging - everything from helping with elections, doing environmental projects, helping with community service organizations and volunteering with community sport programs. Our daughter does laundry for a homeless program once each week during the winter.
I don't know how the proposed legislation differs from the program in Ontario. I see it as a positive part of their education. There is nothing "big brother" about it.
Re: HR 1388 Passes in House - "Required Volunteerism" from ...
"I don't know how the proposed legislation differs from the program in Ontario. I see it as a positive part of their education. There is nothing "big brother" about it."
I agree, I think it's an important lesson for younger folks to get a taste of lending a hand for a good cause. Maybe then they'll grow up with some sense of conscience.
Re: HR 1388 Passes in House - "Required Volunteerism" from ...
Well Kiron,
In the USA I was proudly raised to believe I (and my kids) lived in a "free country", and that "eternal vigilance is the price of freedom" - Thomas Jefferson.
By the way, I'm in favor of my kids CHOOSING to volunteer. That's what VOLUNTEER used to mean!
Re: HR 1388 Passes in House - "Required Volunteerism" from ...
"No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve."
-Patrick Henry
I'm all for volunteerism. But if it is mandatory, it is not volunteerism. It is totalitarianism. And people will (appropriately) resent and resist it. What we need in this country is lower taxes, fewer laws, smaller government, and more family and community. Mandatory service is a bad idea.
Re: Todays action
Mark- My take on today's market is that it once again played us all. There is no way to outguess the market. I give it an A+ for sucking in new money at the open, shaking them down in the afternoon, then thumbing its nose at them on its way back up. What's new? LOL.
Re: HR 1388 Passes in House - "Required Volunteerism" from ...
I agree totally. What's next maybe mandatory donations to charity? Maybe mandatory work for everyone when people stop working or decide to work less, rebelling against 50+% tax rates. The way this government seems to think we're too stupid to choose anything for ourselves.
Rob.
Re: Todays action
I'm hoping I outguessed the market today. I bought some SSO right when things started to go from negative to positive in the afternoon.
Rob.
Real Scum?
When I worked in advertising, we were called professional liars, rated UNDER used car salesmen. I never knowingly lied about anything. One fine December morning in 1984, I opened the paper to the news of an explosion in Bhopal, India of a Union Carbide plant, releasing 42 tonnes of toxic methyl isocyanate (MIC) gas. 500,000 people were exposed. The immediate death toll was 2,259. More than 8,000 died within two weeks, and it is estimated that an additional 8,000 have since died from gas-related diseases, maiming and degenerative conditions. Union Carbide was my client. I had helped create demand for that very product. I had been told the product was 'safe' and had a short half life, affecting only the nematodes unfortunate enough to come in contact with these small pellets underground. I was told the product called Temik helped grow more food for the starving masses. What I did not know was that the active ingredient was being manufactured in a country where safety regulations were more lax. I called my fellow creative and account teams to commiserate. To my surprise, they professed ignorance equaled innocence. I felt differently about that. My former clients, the entemologists and product managers, stood through a merger that moved them to France to work for new masters under a new name.
Followers of this blog know who the real scum are: the ultra rich bank and corporate executives who devised the CDS instruments who are now working on their tans. Brokers were a link in their chain. Should brokers have known what they were selling like my work promoting Union Carbide? Once we get wind of such things we all have choices to make. I've made mine and I don't send loans to 'those banks' no matter how great their rates.
Re: Todays action
2nd- "My take on today's market is that it once again played us all. There is no way to outguess the market."
Sure didn't seen to play you at all. I missed a profit exit on ERX, to greedy, and couldn't/wouldn't pull the trigger on TNA near the close. I'm used to the ebb and flow in high level sports. Emotions, fatigue, desire, luck all contribute to the outcome.
Today just really felt different. Sorry if I'm bugging ya'.
Did anyone else hear this story?
I heard a report today that the "protesters" outside of AIG executives homes were actually rounded up and bussed there by Acorn, who then called the press to come and write about it.
The report mentioned that a similar tactic was used by the Service Workers Union to manufacture the "protesters" outside of AIG headquarters.
If there's such real anger about the AIG bonuses why the need to manufacture protesters? To me it's more evidence of a coordinated attempt to draw the public's attention away from the real thefts of our money that are 1000X larger and also to draw our attention away from the FED's insane attempt to fool everyone into thinking there's still demand for our Treasuries by outside investors.
I've always hoped we would be cut off by foreign investors as the only way Washington would ever be forced to spend within it's means. And I can't believe the world will allow us to keep the ponzi/spending scheme going for too long with us blatantly buying our own debt. It just doesn't make any sense why anyone would think we have any credibility at all anymore.
Rob.
tourism
heard on the radio that 10% of Italy's GDP is tourism and thats seriously affected this year (no american tourists...), more shoes to drop in Europe like this
Re: Did anyone else hear this story?
As disgusted as I was about the AIG pass-through of taxpayer money to Goverment-Sachs or Goldman-Suchs or whatever you want to call them and the rest of the banker-elite, I absolutely cringed at the solution of the retroactive taxing of these bonuses at 90%. (though these criminals deserve to be penniless and in prison.) Talk about opening pandoras box. Create an outrage, and come up with a solution. What a great precedent. And what a great smoke screen to make it happen - to the applause of Boobus Americanus.
"The alternative to a new international order is chaos."
-Henry Kissinger
Re: HR 1388 Passes in House - "Required Volunteerism" from ...
Amazing how this kind of ideas seem to rise from ashes, in all times and countries, time and again, no matter how many times they discredit themselves... question "what's next", rhetoric or theoretic for many, is purely practical for anyone who lived in USSR, and we know the answer. Here is what's next:
Subbotnik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subbotnik
Napravlenie: can't find any English references, means state-directed place of work for 3 years after graduating from university or college, literally anywhere in the country - Siberia, Far East, wherever state deems needed.
Mandatory work on farms, anywhere from 1 day to a month, for university students, professors, scientific lab workers etc.
If you think this is too crazy - so did those with remnants of sanity in the USSR. Oh, and all that "mandatory volunteerism" invoked no deep humanitarian feelings in people, nothing but cynicism in fact. Students sometimes perceived it as fun; only totally brainwashed accepted the premise of "everyone's helping everyone else".
Re: Todays action
Rob- Nice, Man. I HOPE I would have done the same with with TNA, like I did @ Tuesdays close...but I'm not so sure.
Seemed like a scene from "Revolutions"..."There's something wrong with the Matrix". Probably just my inexperience.
Re: Todays action
Mark- Didn't mean to be flip. Overall, I'm bullish.
My buy-and-hold will remain in place until I sense this bear-market rally coming to a reversal in a major way and/or it hits gains that common sense tells me to lock in. That could be next week, this summer, or a year from now. My working template is the 'generational low' that Kass talked about.
As for the trading portfolio, I'm now leaning more towards pure intraday trading, as the kind of gains we saw on Monday took much of the wind out of my 'conviction' for an upside move. Should we continue to trade sideways for awhile and work off the overbought condition, that conviction could return, and lead to longer holding periods. A retest of the lows would do the same.
Re: HR 1388 Passes in House - "Required Volunteerism" from ...
Can someone please post the appropriate section in HR 1388 that refers to mandatory service?
I was sent the following, but a cursory search of the Bill reveals no such section/verbiage:
”Section 6104 of The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act requires that a commission be established to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”
Concerned father wants to know…..thanks
Re: Todays action
2nd- Thanks, Man.
"I'm now leaning more towards pure intraday trading, as the kind of gains we saw on Monday took much of the wind out of my 'conviction' for an upside move."
Monday didn't do it for me but today did. I have to admit, leaving the office up 8% on TNA and checking through my phone, down 6% was a little unnerving. I'll think about this tonight but my reaction now is to remove some of the "crack",(3X), from my portfolio. Hard to play Craps when I have to leave the table AND my chips for the bulk of the game.
BTW- Did you get my e-mail a few days ago?
IWM
is hitting a resistance line from Nov 08
Re: IWM
Shiva- Could you add the chart? For some reason I can't bring it up on Schwab. TIA
Re: IWM
I dont know how to link an annotated chart but you can see the lows from oct/nov
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=IWM&p=D&b=5&g=0&i...
Re: HR 1388 Passes in House - "Required Volunteerism" from ...
Here is the buddy bill S277 that goes along with the House bill hr1388.
You'll have to look for what you need because it's rather long. By the way...if you do read it, you'll be one up on any senator or representative.
Even so, what your government reps votes on, and what gets printed in the final bill is only known by the special interest groups that run the government.
S 277 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill....
Here is the first draft that went through the house
HR1388 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill....
Buying debt
What would the personal equivalent be?
If I were bankrupt, maxed out on everything, could I buy my own debt?
No one with a brain would loan me anything at that point. But here we are, all together, as the good ol' USSA.
*Stuff* might deflate for some time, but how will debt deflate?
If we keep running more and more public debt, THAT IS velocity isn't it?
That's what they're doing right? Isn't the government spending yours, ours, theirs, and the yet to be borns, *in place* of private velocity?
We do not have to buy anything. Those that think they represent us are spending trillions in our names (see above).
None of this leads to stronger currency. It cannot.
Re: THE FOOLS IN CONGRESS!!!
A Letter to Mr Jake DeSantis:
DEAR Mr DeSantis,
I find your "Letter of Resignation" to be a craftily devised document prepared with the same vagueness and lack of transparency that no doubt exists in the AIG CDS insurance contracts you attempt to divorce your Financial Products unit from. What is cleverly lacking here is a date of resignation, or the words "resign immmediately". Your statements "I'll continue over the short term" and "I can't remain much longer" are blatant attempts to get yourself fired and thereby open the door to litigation for wrongful dismissal in hopes of an even larger payday than the ones you have been so fortunate to have been given up to this point. While I am amazed that you would couch within the letter your C.V., I doubt that future employment will deliver the same income as what you have enjoyed at the expensive of many others less fortunate and lacking in street smarts. Yes, AIG is very large and casts a large net. However, most AIG products and services are not provided with a gun to your client's head so I can assume that future business prospects are very dim as clients will elect to take their business elsewhere whenever the opportunities present themselves. Perhaps you can look for the light switch and turn it off on your way out.
Sincerely,
TerryC
RE: Buying Debt
The other thing about when you're maxed out is.....
You are a greater risk so you pay higher yields.
The Chinese said as much the other day. If you max the CC's and then call to see if they will lower your rate, good luck! Your FICO score will be dirt, like the USA's is, and guess what? They don't want to loan to you with crap credit without much higher interest rates.
Just check out your rates lately. Get many 0 percent offers lately? I used to get several a day. Now I get CC offers at 0 for balance transfers and new purchases for a limited time. It used to be 0 or maybe a point fixed until paid off. Now simply jack up the scale to an international level.
When we call China for more credit they are going to say.....you are maxed out, we need higher interest for higher risk. I guarantee, China is no dumber than oil producing countries when they see wooden nickels.
Then that debt service and velocity will come home to roost...on our heads.
The problem is global, not national. Who are the savers? They will set the terms like the CC co's do. The debtors? They (we) will pay whatever is required. And party like 1979.
Default will only accelerate the process.
Re: Buying debt
Craig - I couldn't agree more however, a declining dollar is dependent upon other currencies staying put. That ain't gonna happen. Much of Europe is worse off than us.
Having debt during a deflationary period is devastating. Incomes fall, asset prices fall...but your debt stays the same.
Re: HR 1388 Passes in House - "Required Volunteerism" from ...
Jack - "By the way, I'm in favor of my kids CHOOSING to volunteer. That's what VOLUNTEER used to mean!"
School is mandatory for your kids, just as my paying taxes to pay for their education is mandatory. I'd like to know kids nowadays are being introduced to the concept of helping others, it seems many have not.
Geithner to Propose Vast Expansion Of U.S. Oversight of Financia
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 26, 2009; Page A01
Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner plans to propose today a sweeping expansion of federal authority over the financial system, breaking from an era in which the government stood back from financial markets and allowed participants to decide how much risk to take in the pursuit of profit.
The administration also will seek to impose uniform standards on all large financial firms, including banks, an unprecedented step that would place significant limits on the scope and risk of their activities.
Most of these initiatives would require legislation.
Interesting times, but I think I had enough for one lifetime!
The devalued Prime Minister of a devalued Gov't
The US could use a politician like this, right now.......
http://tinyurl.com/dbwfmp
RE: Buying Debt
I also agree wholeheartedly with most of what you write, except the velocity of money part. All this debt is being used to bailout banks and buy treasuries, so it never really enters the system, hence there isn't really any velocity, is there? I mean, issuing debt to buy treasuries is basically like burying the money in the back yard, and occasionally digging it up to add interest every once in a while.
"issuing debt to buy treasuries"
I feel dumber for having typed it, but that's the best solution our leaders can come up with. Amazing...
Re: Buying debt
Teamonfuego,
I don't know if that's true.
If all countries are in debt, some worse than others, they are all bankrupt debtors. Then the problem becomes....who's money do you borrow?
If they *all* are devaluing their currency, then it all becomes relative, right? None will stay put, they will all fall.
It's then all relative to the things that don't devalue or are truly rare, as those will now be the currency everyone, worldwide, goes to to protect themselves.
We already see some talk of an IMF currency. IOW, when ALL currencies are crap, we make up another and hope the stink from the crap doesn't rub off on the new *incomparable* currency with the *value* THE CENTRAL BANKERS decide to give it.
Bill wrote about this happening several years ago....and here we are.
Re: Omg
norm - All the insolvent Wall Street banks talk about deflation. The billionaires (Buffet, Julian Roberts, Jim Rogers, etc) are all saying inflation. I question investment advice from insolvent people.
Re: Omg
CP- Saw your post this morning. Take a look at USD. My tech guy says there is a lot of room here still.
RE: Buying Debt
proudPapa - Velocity is the next step coming. Many assets are financed and falling asset prices cause default, a vicious cycle. The currency will be adjusted enough to get ahead of falling asset prices in attempt to stop the spiral and swing the pendulum back towards the inflationary zone. This process may take some time, but there isn't much time remaining... Some say the current effort isn't great enough and they may be correct. Let's hope this isn't the case.
RE: Buying Debt
Man, no doubt the majority is going to banks, etc. but a lot (have you seen the budget proposal? Yikes!) is going to, as Keynes would say, to dig holes and fill them up. It's what, conservatively a couple trillion easy. That is a lot of borrowing and spending compared to our annual GDP. The banks are holes, but not yet black holes. Still what fills the hole? The money we borrow from others that we have to pay. So what is their plan? To reflate all over the place, not just financial institutions. Yes, the banks will suck it up and at some point it will be written down, but guess who will be writing it down? If you say banks, think again. I just went into my bathroom and looked in the mirror to get a look at who will be writing those debts down and who will be paying that debt. I could have sworn I saw Tiny Tim with a gun to my head....
That's the whole idea of off balance sheet crap isn't it? To offload it to the taxpayer like has always happened. But you know we never really pay that debt, we restructure it and devalue our currency to compensate, paying the debt in destroyed purchasing power. The silent taxation of inflation.
People...think about it. The 1913 USD is worth less than 1 penny.
We are still paying for Vietnam for crying out loud! (1972 pick-up was $5000/now $35-40,000). When has our debt ever gone down? So we may see deflation for a while until all the banks/crooks are made whole or nearly so, (but at our expense) then those people will put that money into circulation again, along with all that government spending for roads, bridges, more houses for the poor in Tacoma (my idiot Senator), bike trails (my idiot Senator) and all kinds of stupid spending to try to keep as many people working as possible.
IOW, government borrowed velocity.
We aren't going back to caves! All currencies will buy much less when it's all said and done. If it's caves then all fiat currency will be headed for Zimbabwe.
Remember....CC's maxed, no real cash. To do anything you either claim bankruptcy or you borrow much, much more (to service debt and raise productivity - hopefully) to make enough to pay the debt. But we all know the diminishing returns of this plan...and bankruptcy for the USA? $2500 would be massively conservative for gold....and if you have food even gold will be your bitch.
Geithner
Geithner was saying this AM (or was it yesterday?) that the mistake governments make is not doing enough.
IOW we're not done by a long shot. Personally I think helicopter Ben was a serious understatement. I'm thinking a craft the size of the one in close encounters of the third kind, with thousands of sorties, would be closer to the scale needed.
I can't even imagine what that many trillions could be like. We previously only used the word Billions, but we are in a whole new range now. They sure are getting accustomed to the T word. I guess we better get used to it.
I think it's just as Kaimu says. You could be a killer trader but you are trading for something valued in a fiat currency on the ropes of debt. We can all see that on the inflation adjusted gold/S&P historical charts. In real purchasing power we really haven't gone anywhere for over ten years now. Not because the markets were down, but because the USD is.
Re: Omg
Mark - Agreed, this one (USD) does have some room to run and run it shall as soon as the market turns up. I came from the semiconductor industry, and always viewed the products from a consumer discretionary perspective. Perhaps that's not quite the right category, or maybe this explains the lag (my perception of lag)??? Everybody talks about how semi's will lead market, but these guys were hit pretty hard trying to keep WIP going with no buyers. I think the Semi industry has never been hit this hard before...and I've lived through a couple of big hits, it seemed Intel took 5 years to reach good profitability with demand for new architecture. They don't really have new architecture now, they're trying to increase substrate size in a compensatory attempt but got caught in this downturn just prior to the transition. May be some time until profitability returns, but markets are habitual... I expect next quarter reporting will create a healthy pullback (Perspective from a novice trader but semi-industry veteran).
IBM (Old News?)
3/25/09 - "A big round of layoffs is expected in IBM’s U.S. global business services unit, with some of the jobs heading to India, according to a report in the Wall Street Journal.
The number of jobs affected is unknown and IBM didn’t comment on the workforce reduction. But the WSJ points out that the group is the company’s largest in both revenue and employment, with 180,000 employees worldwide. "
http://www.semiconductor.net/article/CA6646606.html
McHugh Update
Can't help myself:
"The Dow Industrials rose 89.84 points Wednesday, closing at 7,749.81, just as Tuesday's 15 minute Full Stochastics suggested was likely. "
The funny thing is I'll bet money the full stoch did a full cycle of suggesting stock will rise, fall, and rise again, all intraday today. To claim this result to be proof of predictive power is incredibly disingenuous...
more 3x funds
ok, these are going track monthly prices of the underlyings.... definitely casino style
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Direxion-To-Tie-Leve...
Re: Omg
CP- Now I now more than before. THX! The best I can do is pass along what I hear from my clients who are pretty high up in the food chain. Good luck.
Re: HR 1388 Passes in House - "Required Volunteerism" from ...
But Vad, volunteerism is back in vogue in Russia!
http://tinyurl.com/crmlt7
Re: tourism
RE:>heard on the radio that 10% of Italy's GDP is tourism and thats seriously affected this year (no american tourists...), more shoes to drop in Europe like this
Great! I'm an s.o.b admittedly, but at least Italy will sound Italian for a year or two.
But seriously Shiva, the shoe to drop off in this country is the debt to GDP - over 100% and rising. The US will look like Italy (a real economic basket case) if the fed and washington don't pull their finger out post-crisis.
and the big just keep on getting bigger...
March 26 (Bloomberg) -- Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group Inc. and Morgan Stanley said they plan to merge their Japan securities businesses, forming what would be the nation’s third- largest brokerage firm.
The companies will hold a press briefing on the merger, in which Mitsubishi UFJ will hold 60 percent, at 4:30 p.m. Tokyo time, they said in a joint statement to the Tokyo Stock Exchange.
Hugh Hendry has it spot on
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1058770450&p...
About 7 minutes in he explains exactly what I'm thinking about inflation/deflation. We won't have inflation any time soon because of the deflationary effects of a contraction in asset prices and income. Until our debt increases such that we can only service the interest on it will we have hyperinflation.
Re: HR 1388 Passes in House - "Required Volunteerism" from ...
This is where the word "voluntee" comes in. Hopefully it will be used in the new legislation as well. It's kind of like the concept of "preemptive retaliation" used by divorce lawyers.
Re: Geithner to Propose Vast Expansion Of U.S. Oversight of ...
I have to wonder if GS and SLZ will be exempt from this.
Re: Hugh Hendry has it spot on
Thanks teamonfuego, some good airing out of conflicting thoughts live on tv. Not everyday we see that.
Re: Geithner
I wish, rather than taking a chance on Keynes being right with our grandchildrens' future, they would forget the bailing out and opt for complete accountability and transparency. Then confidence could return and things could get better. This why I am a pessimist. I also follow Fekete regarding his Iron Law of Debt.
Re: Buying debt
Craig, debt deflation is what the monetary authorities have undertaken today because the banks refused to write off their bad debts because doing so would have given them insufficient capital to meet regulatory requirements. Do you recall where for many months a year or two ago I harped on this subject of write-off versus write-down. The banks were waiting for Treasury Secretary Paulson at the time to make them whole via TARP, ie, using future taxpayers' money to over-pay for bank assets of dubious value.
Without debt deflation, some asset prices would soar, like gold for instance.
In a free capital market, these banks would fail, new banks would spring up in their place and take on the good business that does exist, and the nation would get back to creating wealth, which would hold the price of gold down, and lift the price of financial assets via P/E multiple expansion.
Re: The devalued Prime Minister of a devalued Gov't
http://tinyurl.com/dbwfmp
yvrapx, thank you for posting this link. Do Americans see such straight talk in Congress? Dr. Ron Paul comes to mind, but even he does not articulate with the skill of this British politician. In cutting to the chase, this is a more impressive speech than the ones we are hearing from President Obama, in my opinion. In the President's case, I think the man is trying to talk us to death, and he has lost me as an audience. He's the nation's leader and from him we need executive management, not sales management, which we continue to get, over and over and...
Funny Stuff. Right.
http://ronsen.blogspot.com/2009/03/one-day-at-time...
Poor bond auction and rocket ship close. Who said the market has no sense of humor?
Twiggs.
http://www.incrediblecharts.com/tradingdiary/tradi...