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Cara's Commentary & Community Chat, Wed., Jan. 7, 2009

[7:37am ET] Every day we see the impact the Bear market has on the wealthy. Reports of suicides of multi-millionaires and billionaires are routine occurrences. Today there is a poll by Spectrem Group, a consulting firm specializing in the affluent and retirement markets, among 750 households worth US$1 million or more that says 55% fear they now lack the resources to maintain their lifestyle.

With equity markets down about one-third and relatively safe fixed income yields offering no alternative as they are also down about one-third, only one-third of American millionaires are satisfied with the performance of their financial advisers, and 90% fear a worsening of their situation. Thirty-six percent, in fact, put the blame on their adviser(s).

To me, the options are obvious –either become a student of the markets or switch advisors, and cut back on the lifestyle – buy a Cadillac instead of a high-end Lexus or Mercedes. Maybe take a four-day vacation in Canada with the discounted Loonie or at home or in nearby Bahamas with the Dollar at par, but not to Europe where the Euro is costly.

Suicide is not an option. Changing one’s lifestyle is.


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From THE BIG PICTURE

The major commodities indices are being rebalanced, and I am forced once again to question their timing.

Recall the last major rebalance: At the time, I had been challenged by Larry Kudlow to find a smoking gun for the sudden 2006 collapse of Oil prices a month or two before the mid-term election.

That challenge led us to discover the actual mechanism — the GSCI rebalancing. Just 3 months prior to the election, GS decided to significantly lower the weight of Oil and Natural Gas, effective a month prior to the election. Prices plummeted, albeit temporarily.

There was a cost to this: Subsequent performance of the index, reweighted with less energy, was negatively impacted, as energy prices for the following 2 years boomed, until Oil peaked at $147. The reweighted indices performed much wore than they would have had they not been changed in ‘06.

Bill King noted yesterday:

The weightings for both indices are released ahead of time, but begin to kick in the first few working days of the new year. In the case of the DJ-AIGCI — which JP Morgan estimates has $25bn in funds tracking it — the new weightings come into force during the roll period that begins January 9th. The S&P GSCI index weightings kick-in after its January roll which commences January 8th. JP Morgan estimates about $50 bn of investment into that index… Accordingly, JP Morgan sees the most significant change coming in the DJ-AIGCI rebalance. Here the market weight of crude oil is expected to increase from 9.6 per cent to 13.8 per cent, gold from 10.8 per cent to 7.9 per cent, copper (COMEX) from 4.5 per cent to 7.3 per cent, live cattle from 6.4 per cent to 4.3 per cent and sugar from 4.7 per cent to 3.0 per cent. Meanwhile, S&P GSCI crude oil weight will go from 32 per cent to 33.8 per cent…Nevertheless, gold tanked on Monday on expectation of a weighting reduction of gold in the DJ-AIGCI Index …This harkens memories of July 2006 when Goldman greatly reduced the weighting of gasoline, which precipitated a huge collapse in gasoline prices ahead of the 2006 midterm elections.

I have no idea why the managers of these indices made these changes, but they are certainly curious.

I consider these contra-indicated: In a time of massive Fed credit creation and Treasury money printing, they oddly want less exposure to Gold. And with the worldwide recession getting worse, they want more exposure to Oil. Both of these are poorly timed macro-trades.

There are two things I can tell you about the index rebalancing: First, the last such contra-indicated changes were steamrolled over by the market, and cost investors in these indices to miss out on a huge move in Oil via the lower weightings.

Second, it won’t take long before people start to consider the political ramifications of goosing energy stocks 2 weeks before the Obama administration is sworn in.

I have no clue what the motivation is for these moves, nor do I knows what what they were in 2006. But they are looking increasingly curious and ill timed. Once is a coincidence. Twice makes you pay close attention. After the third such move, expect to see the index managers dragged before a Congressional panel . . .

HELMUT

ALOHA !!

What Helmut Schmidt of Germany(former Chancellor) says about OBAMA sums up my thoughts ... "I am very wary of men with great oratorical skills paired with calls for CHANGE. Most of these people never come close to fulfilling things. Jack Kennedy said the same things in 1961 and two years later the US was in the Vietnam War and riots in the streets ..."

Essentially OBAMA has rehired the same old CLINTON hacks. There is nothing "new" here as it is the same old shuffling of paper and people who have consistently failed WE THE PEOPLE.

The "long train of abuses" will continue ...

Will we get a late Santa Claus Rally ... I mean OBAMA Rally? It won't be long until inauguration. I recall Jimmy Carter's walk down Pennsylvania Ave. What will OBAMA do? If he is in tune with the USD he will hitchhike(bum a ride)!

Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Good morning.

PTR - Downgraded to Hold @ Standpoint

New Coverage:

AMAT - Buy @ Wunderlich. Price Target = $15
QCOM - Buy @ Collins Stewart. Price Target = $45

MSFT* - Price Target Lowered from $28 to $26 @ Jefferies & Co.

* Bill mentioned as future addition (if I remember correctly).

SAY

man, i wish i actually took my own advice and went short or bought puts on this. Do you remember back in December when they announced a buyout of a construction company and then re-negged on that deal only hours later? That was our evidence that management was either corrupt or stupid or both and I said I wanted to go short it. I was too busy shorting the market. If you bought puts in this thing yesterday you are an overnight thousandaire/millionaire.

gold

I happened to mention a few days ago that everybody and his dog is recommending gold and that consensus made me nervous. At last, one of those I listen to (who predicted that gold would reach $1,000 in 2008), is now somewhat bearish on the yellow metal. But I am still not happy. The newfound gold bear is none other than mr doom and gloom, marc faber. Yikes.

Re: From THE BIG PICTURE

thank you Nemo, great post. Question: do you think the reallocation is already baked into the stock prices of these commodities? I notice PCU is up sharply and we all have seen the oil stocks rise. Gold/gold stocks haven't made much of a move down that I've seen.

Re: SAY

I remember. It reminds me of when I almost bought the farthest out of the money Bear Stearns puts for .20 each but passed when the climbed to .25....I would have made hundreds of thousands of dollars but since I mostly sell options I just couldn't pull the trigger. I should have known because I knew about the terrible option ARM loans EMC Mortgage (Bear Stearns) was writing in Florida....coulda, shoulda, woulda

Maybe we should make a decision to at least put some money to play if we smell a rat...

SAY Falling knight, no. it is

SAY
Falling knight, no. it is falling tank. But I brought it at 0.92 just for speculation

BAC

Is BAC's sale of China Construction Bank stock a cause for alarm? Why wouldn't they just get free TARP money? I read European banks will probably be selling stakes in Chinese banks to raise cash? Is this a bad omen for FXI?

Any of your opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Obama

Kaimu, I assert that Obama is more competent than the man he defeated in November.

I also find it darned interesting that Obama seems to have already assumed the office of the presidency, stepping in to fill the Bush power vacuum weeks before being sworn in. Interesting.

BTW...If I were secy of state I would say to Israel:

"Nice job you did on that U.N. school, killing those 40 kids...Hey ya know the billions we send you every year? Well, from now on, the Palestinians are getting half of it. We are going to build Palestine. And if you don't pull out this very day, you won't even get the remaining half"...and then watch them scramble for the nickles.

Gaza/Israel

Sounds like theater continues for the time being, anybody planning to short oil/energy soon?

Re: BAC

I still think BAC has to raise a TON of equity capital. They are significantly overleveraged after the MER deal, which if it was left on its own would have gone bankrupt.

ADP jobs numbers

obviously more bad numbers. at this point its no longer news in my view, until the trend is reversed. Which might take a while.
http://tinyurl.com/6sem37

Cara 100 Update

NOK - Downgraded to Neutral @ AmTech Research

RESETS

ALOHA !!

Thanks nemo ... As I have always said fiat currencies are essentially built on constantly shifting sands and the markets based on fiat are no different! This speaks to why none of the baby-boomers entering retirement have been able to plan worth a crap for the long term! This also is the key ingredient as to why global governments are at a loss for planning long term as well. It will only get worse for boomers because most of them sank their life savings into residential real estate with the false belief that they could sell their homes at a substantial profit and downsize and live like a king.

Another "re-weighting" is coming down the pike for 2009 all through 2012. RESETS FOR OPTION ARMS and INTEREST ONLY(IO), something like $1.2tril combined value. Now what happened to the stock markets and real estate when the sub-prime hit was only worth $615bil. What is coming over the next few years is DOUBLE that! According to the Credit Suisse chart I am looking at these resets begin to gain strength starting Q1 2009 and accelerate almost vertically in Q42009 and into 2010 then go massively UP in 2011 then fall off a cliff in Q3 2012. Question is who will survive this and the amount of inventory coming onto the real estate market over the next year and a half is staggering! All this coincides with baby-boomers who are looking to downsize and retire, so even if you have no mortgage you will be faced with huge equity losses compared to the boom years. Of course the US government on OBAMA'S watch will intervene in a massive way to support prices, but there is no "real wealth"(manufacturing/saving)base left in America only the false wealth of paper receipts and paper shuffling for short term gains. Combine this effect with the $101.2tril unfunded liabilities of SS and MED ... Going into this I will remind you that the FDIC/SIPC, PBGC and all other "guarantees" are close to broke already. Real estate will not return until hyper-inflation returns. All this will be a huge drag on US payroll taxes and income taxes for both Fed and States and not to mention the huge drag on the USDX(USA stock certificate) ... MORE DEBT on top of MORE DEBT on top of MORE DEBT!! That is historically how EMPIRES collapse! FORTUNES WILL BE LOST TRADING THE MARKETS SUCCESSFULLY ...

That effect I predict will cause massive government intervention that makes the government intervention today look like Seasame Street! What governments are trying to do is maintain price levels so the masses are placated. They are failing miserably because global governments teamed up with short term traders known as the US FED/BANKS/WALL STREET(notice investment banks and commercial banks have merged for the BAILOUT so there is no difference, never was), where profits are short term(the ME GENERATION)but placating masses requires long term strategies. It was a partnership doomed to fail and still is no matter what OBAMA says or does the die is cast! The US government has been selling out to US BANKS since 1913. ITS GENERATIONAL!! The US CONgress strategy of stealing from the masses who produce real wealth has a limited life span! Within three years that will be a done deal! I predict "rioting in the streets"(recall Helmut Schmidt's opinion of OBAMA)!

IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO SHORT TERM TRADERS! As the fiat system collapses the SHORT TERM will get ever SHORTER! Every political leader and financial leader in America is SHORT TERM minded and that will never succeed where it counts ... LONG TERM!

The US EMPIRE is unwinding ... That is okay, it is what all EMPIRES do! I just wish we would allow capitalism and free markets to make that shift and not crony-socialism via governments and central banks! The pain for the masses will last much, much longer!

GOVERNMENT IS ONLY AS HONEST AS ITS MONEY ...

bahamas

Westjet has a seat sale on today. One way from Toronto $129.00 It says it's a one day sale.

Running to Treasuries

http://tinyurl.com/7wefrh

Courtesy of Jesse's site.

Re: HELMUT

We get it already. You listen to that windbag on the radio too much and comically claim yourself an indepdent thinker.

The game plan from the noise machine is to reanimate its absurd propaganda against Clinton to damn Obama before the man has even had a single day in office. It's an agenda as bankrupt in creativity now as it is was ten years ago in honesty.

Re: Running to Treasuries

ALOHA !!

Based on your chart the "Running to Treasuries" could also be titled "Bankrupting US TAXPAYERS", because who will ultimately hold the sell off of agency debt like FNM and FRE? YEP ... thanks HANK AND BEN!!

ELIMINATE THE US FED!

Re: HELMUT

"We get it already. You listen to that windbag on the radio too much and comically claim yourself an indepdent thinker." - number2son

Personal attacks are prohibited.

mind the gap part deux!!

more gaps being filled and back filled in HGU/GDX

im not convinced of much in either direction until we break one way or the other.

spot gold not looking strong right now but the USD has been taking a hit.

finger is on the trigger to go long again if gold spikes upward.

SLW- moving to 200% of allocation @ 6.29...

looking to add to March 5 calls also (-SLWCA)...

EZPW

anyone see a reason for 10% slide in EZ Pawn?

Interesting take on Madoff fallout

From Scott Barlow, Blackmont Capital:

'The fallout from the Madoff alleged Ponzi scheme is, we think, a bigger issue than most realize. Nothing terrifies the mega rich like the possibility of waking up as "Formerly Mega-Rich", as happened to numerous ultra-high net worth Madoff clients. We suspect that wealthy families and institutions are in the process of removing assets from equity markets and hedge funds. The fact that the wealthiest 1% of Americans owns 50% of the country’s wealth means that these sell tickets will be $2-5 million a pop in many cases.'

Bill has made the case for cleaning up capital market abuses many times before, the Madoff affair may be the catalyst to enlist the change required to bring confidence back to the market.

liking the negative open- dissipates much of the anxiety

that's been building...we could close red, but we could also close very green...

SRS

SRS out @51.97

Re: Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Re: "MSFT* - Price Target Lowered from $28 to $26 @ Jefferies & Co... * Bill mentioned as future addition (if I remember correctly)."

I decided against that change, and went instead to Juniper Networks (JNPR). I also added APA and SLB in exchange for STO and TOT, the switched out ABX for KGC, and today replaced GOL and NTES with AMZN and BBY.

Some of these changes are due to liquidity interest. Netease, for example, is a terrific company, but has low liquidity.

Re: Interesting take on Madoff fallout

Re the Blackmont analyst comment: "We suspect that wealthy families and institutions are in the process of removing assets from equity markets and hedge funds."

Yes, they ought to. They can put their assets into accounts they own that are administrated by a high quality electronic broker, and then contract with companies like Cara Trading Advisors to manage those assets.

918 2nd

2nd, Looks like if we hold here at 918 that we may close green, but if we break support here, we could go to 850 or so. Add the rule of round numbers and support is more like 900, so you might have some wiggle room.

Re: bahamas

Mike,

Both Westjet and air Canada are running specials all around our conference. By putting it on the weekend with mid-week travel, the discounts are very high. Jim Watt will report he can get a 10% discount off the listed price with a promo number that Westjet will soon make available to us. But you are not likely to beat C$129 to C$132 prices from Toronto.

I was told Westjet flies here non-stop from Calgary but I can't see where from their website.

Sandals resort next door has been getting a big business out of Vancouver, Edmonton, Saskatoon and Calgary apparently because of that service, but I cannot find it.

Meredith Whitney: TARP funds go down the downgrade drain

Congratulations to all you predicted a fall in market

and shorted the market yesterday!

Westjet

Last year Westjet flew direct from Calgary, but not this year it seems. I was looking yesterday and 1 way from Calgary - Nassau was $229. Now today they have the big sale on -- $269! Some seat sale!

XOM

This company's stock looks pretty overvalued to me. I don't think estimates have taken into account the effect that the (what i believe to be permanent) drop in oil is going to have on their earnings. I wouldn't be surprised to see this hit $50 in 2009.

FWIW

FD:I missed out on the 11/21 low, too much going on the home scene. But I've got some longs and some shorts, picking them up when the market gets giddy or depressed.

I don't think it's worthwhile to characterize the action from 11/21. Depends on one's trading time frame and risk profile.

When I have run various indices against volatility measures, put/call ratios, etc, market risk has been increasing.

When I run scans of the Cara 100, the Cara Oct 10 list, large lists of ETF's, I found very few long opportunities. I also check a RSI scan site and the list of those under RSI 30 had been declining thru the rally.

Of course, I looked at my longs yesterday and thought I should take something off the table, WFMI with almost 20% gain. And buy some EEV, Oh well.

The 10 day ATR for the averages have been shrinking. I heard on the radio that yesterday's 60 Dow pt move was strong, 238 was the average 10 day ATR. It was nuthin.

On the flip side, the inverse ETF's have not gotten into accumulation/buying mode in the RSI scan and the max pain isn't showing enough potential for me to put a short trade on.

Just sitting and watching the circus come to town (and the big boys got some bonus to boot).

Gold copping it with a big stick

Quite a sudden and rapid decline. $30 in an hour and a half. Reminds me of 3rd quarter last year. Any news that I'm missing?

Re: Congratulations to all you predicted a fall in market

Yep. And I was about 2 hours too early on my TZA buy yesterday. It promptly dropped and I got stopped out before the fun began.

Yet another lesson in properly gauging stops. So it goes.

Gold

Gold is dying. Why is that?

TCK

Stopped out @$6.25

Re: Gold copping it with a big stick

spot @ $837,
USD only mild upward moves after a big down move over night.

is this the alleged rebalancing of commodity funds that some have been talking about?

gold stocks not mirroring golds weakness as much.

Re: 918 2nd

craig- thanks...IMO, the market needs to test the resolve of the bulls before moving higher-> can't avoid a little fear/volatility at this point...

apropos of nothing

I find myself musing about whether or not David's stop limit order took him out of the oil etf...I didn't mention it last night but that sounded like a very persnikity order to me.

oil

When it drops it drops fast, hod is doing great, thanks for the heads up yesterday Bill.

bill

I booked the flight this morning. Looking forward to it.

Re: Congratulations to all you predicted a fall in market

10 day ATR for TZA is 7.13. A day and half's worth of trading would be (1.5*7.13) or 10.70. Yesterday's closing price was 42.86. Your stop would be about 24% of your position. Losing 24% of a position on a continual basis isn't healthy.

If u reduce the stop from 10.70, it's likely u get stopped out since the stock can swing 7 pts easily intraday.

Position size and good entry points are more important (IMO) than even stock selection.

GL.

If I don't make some money soon...

I will be watching the Cara Convention on closed circuit.

Tightening stop on TBT

The MACD on the hourly just rolled over. I moved up my stop.

I agree with others that we may see more volatility. The VIX is moving up today - north of 40 again.

who among you?

didn't lose money this morning? I sure as heck did.

Re: If I don't make some money soon...

shark-that's actually a great idea; recording the presentations/seminars for replay on youtube?

Re: who among you?

What did you do w/DRYS? It was a very prescient call.

Re: Congratulations to all you predicted a fall in market

Ditto on TZA, being stopped out at 42 yesterday. I'm royally pissed about it, too. In retrospect, the right good move was to re enter at the close yesterday or premarket today.
At least my DZZ is working today.

Is anyone reloading oil and copper after some correction?

Re: Congratulations to all you predicted a fall in market

Good points, bsi. That's why timing your entry using a 1 minute chart is crucial to making a good trade. You want to be able to catch the beginning of those swings. And if you're wrong -- as I was yesterday -- then you can get out quickly and with a minimal loss.

Look at the 1 minute yesterday. There's no way any entry would have worked for an overnight trade, IMO. Day trading is another matter as it had a nice channel in the afternoon to play in. And no one can account for those zany gaps overnight.

2009 options exp calendar

For your viewing pleasure: http://tinyurl.com/8m9ftt

Another Banker Disappearance

There definitely has been a rise in suspicious behaviour involving bankers...

VIENNA — With an aggressive style that stood out in the staid world of Austrian banking even more than her bouffant red wig, Sonja Kohn made few friends gathering billions for Bernard L. Madoff from wealthy investors in Russia and across Europe.

Now, she has even fewer. Mrs. Kohn has dropped out of sight, leaving the firm she founded, Bank Medici, in the hands of Austrian regulators, who took it over last week.

Embarrassment from investing heavily with Mr. Madoff could explain wanting to disappear from public view. But another theory widely repeated by those who know Mrs. Kohn is that she may be afraid of some particularly displeased investors: Russian oligarchs whose money made up a chunk of the $2.1 billion that Bank Medici invested with Mr. Madoff.

“With Russian oligarchs as clients,” said a Viennese banker who knew Mrs. Kohn and her husband socially, “she might have reason to be afraid.”

It was a view shared in interviews with Mrs. Kohn’s fellow bankers, former employees and other associates — from Vienna to London to Geneva to Monsey, N.Y.

http://tinyurl.com/8hsjgo

Re: gold

Well, while I shorted gold recently for a short term play, I think Faber is very positive on gold miners (and oil and commodities) according to his 2009/1/1 newsletter. Did I read it incorrectly?

bankers and madoff

Where is all this money??? If someone lost it, someone else has it.

westjet

Westjet is still running flights between Calgary and Nassau ($900 but $450 on specials), also Ottawa & Toronto direct to Nassau (less than $400 return regular fare and much less on specials). It's a great no-frills, no first-class, no biz-class airline - leather seats with curl-around headrests to facilitate snoozing, upbeat service on the plane. If you have only carry-on luggage you can book, choose your seat and print your own boarding pass and proceed directly to security without stopping at the counter. If you buy a ticket and fares fall, or a special is offered as your departure date approaches, you can exchange for the lesser fare and get a rebate, no cost.

FD: Not employed by WestJet.

Re: who among you?

Who, me? Here's what I did...I bought DRYS the first time at 13.89 with a .70 stop, which got hit. Then I rebought at 14.20 with a moved up stop at 14.35 and it also got hit. I'm pretty torqued off at myself...I do believe in using hard stops but probably not when buying frightening drops...there's too much bullshit that can happen with the bids getting swung around...for example, my 13.70 stop got executed at 13.83. That's not kosher!

Re: bankers and madoff

I agree...there's no way on God's green earth that you can make 50 billion disappear...except in the stock market!

re gold

I think you are right, Jack. I don't see faber's newsletter but I caught him on Bloomberg recently. I believe he was talking about spot gold, not miners. He was v. strong on industrial commodities, base metals etc.

Re: who among you?

Looking at the 1 hr chart on DRYS I'd stay away for now. Bias is down. May come back to 12's?

Re: Congratulations to all you predicted a fall in market

jack black, I'm definitely taking a close look at writing ERX puts as oil falls. I'll probably wait for some support before I do because we've seen lately that oil is very capable of a continuous free fall.

Re: bankers and madoff

Where is the money?

Its gone. The money taken in was distributed to the first ones in the door and so on down the line. That's how a ponzi scheme works. Ponzi schemes end abruptly when money no longer comes in the door. If they distributed 12% yoy, then they would have to take in net 12% more yoy. This is why it was long-lived. Many ponzi schemes run 20% - 30% distributions.

Madoff must have had a certain number of net redemptions that could not be sustained. The people receiving 12% use that money to support their affluent lifestyles. My concern is why the preferential treatment and the light hand of justice?

Re: re gold

Gold is in a unique position to do well in most environments IMO. If the market tanks again then it is a safe haven. If the market does well then we will probably see interest rates rise and/or an inflationary environment. And of course we have government doing everything it can to harm fiat currency.

AKS

I am kind of interested in AKS

Re: who among you?

I stopped out of reloaded positons from yesterday for a few sheckles.
Luckily I was reading Bill carefully about protecting profits and I was out of TCK/SLW/TBT/GSS/CAT/BAC/MSFT/SNDK on yesterday's overzealous enthusiasm.

I'm getting in touch with my inner 2nd Ave. :>)

Re: who among you?

I'm long DOW @ 16.00 as of yesterday; mental stop @ 14.90 and it seems to be holding up for now.

Looking forward to the new Cara Carib. Program.
Westjet (WJA.TO) is a great airline; shoulda bought it a couple of months ago!
JR

Satyam

I don't blame the Indian fellow...he learned his lessons well. He learned how to lie...by watching American CEO's.

BTW...What the hell ever happened to Sarbanes-Oxley and shouldn't the heads of our brokerage firms be headed to federal prison?

Re: who among you?

"I do believe in using hard stops but probably not when buying frightening drops...there's too much bullshit that can happen with the bids getting swung around...for example, my 13.70 stop got executed at 13.83. That's not kosher!"

It's not... and it's one of reasons I hate hard stops for fast intraday trading. I use them only when I have to leave my computer while having open position. Couple scenarios where hard stops will work against you:

1. Your stop is at $20. There is 1,000,000 shares combined bids at that level. Stock downticks to it, offer is lousy 100 shares, someone sells 100 shares at the bid price - your hard stop is triggered. Were you to execute it manually, you would have never sold until and unless you saw those bids at 20 getting seriously hit.
2. Stock drops into your stop level sharply with looooong tail. More often than not such move leads to immediate bounce. Knowing that you'd rather wait to see if you can get better price to exit on bounce while hard stop will take you our indiscretionary. For a very fresh example, have a look at 1 min chart UAUA, 11:22 candle... and imagine you had your stop at 12.

There is truth to old traders saying: best stop is at your fingertips.

Re: bankers and madoff

Except, it was mostly paper gains or money on paper. I bet the money he actually took in (and distributed early as a wave of redemptions came in) was much less than 50 bil, but don't know the whole story to be sure.

Re: Satyam

shark,
There will always be some bad eggs in the market. It all come down to the level of monitoring required. Excessive will stifle companies with good intention.But in this case, there appears to be a blatant violation and cooking of books. A breakdown of the system. What were the external auditors doing as they audited the books ?

To your point , you do not need inspiration from anyone to do that. Just a bad intention and a dirty mind which does not care about others -- investors, creditors , government etc. They tarnish thier reputation and that of the country and cause undue hardship to everyone else.

by the way, "Satyam" is a sanskrit word which means 'truth'. How ironic that truth eventually prevailed albeit a little late!

Re: who among you?

I lost some too, two steps forward, one step back. I knew a pullback was coming, got too greedy ignoring the signs after that remarkable rally...

Re: Congratulations to all you predicted a fall in market

My low bid $35 for USO got hit, same with JJC (at 21.5). I'm counting on the index rebalancing act. We will see.

GG Puts

I'm new to options.

Looking at January gg puts, TA shows short term support here. At $1 for 27.50 looks like a great deal to hold for one week or accumulate more gg at 26.50. Critique?

Clarification - selling puts :)

Re: bankers and madoff

Well, if you wanted to run some sort of ponzi scheme with real longevity, you would need to ensure the returns are good enough to draw "investors" and low enough to guarantee that money can be distributed. Its an interesting experiment which failed. But this scheme is solely intended to defraud investors, one from the other.

Once the net redemptions eat into the intake, which has to be more than the capital plan, the plan starts to lose money and its game over. Obviously Madoff used some form of capital plan to ensure that net redemptions from time to time get taken into account.

I can't help but think that using credit derivatives is just like a reverse-ponzi scheme, a ponzi-scheme applied to borrowing, except the returns are so much lower, and the lenders, who are holding the swaps, can demand ever increasing interest payments to avoid that anyone actually pays off their debt.

Re: who among you?

Vad,

I gotta spend more time with you!

Imminent large move in precious metals

In today's Daily Report, Bill wrote: "We sense an imminent large move in precious metals and are positioning ourselves to profit from the anticipated move. But, we do expect a few curve balls before the real move in gold and silver commences."

Can anyone point me to Bill's thesis for this? I know I've seen his writing somewhere in the past few weeks and should have bookmarked it.

For what its worth, I completely agree with it, I'd just like to know if my reasoning is anywhere in the same ballpark as Bill's.

Thanks.

Mark

Re: GG Puts

I like it although the premium has dropped since your last post. February puts are looking pretty nice as well.

Re: GG Puts

Feb 25's pay $1.55 and you'll probably pocket the premiums IMO. If not a basis of 23.45 ain't too shabby and if you're an options seller the covered calls you could write after the stock is put to you would be pretty nice too.

Hanky Panky

Uhoh....Look who's about to give a speech...1/3 of the triumvirate of evil.

Lifestyle Change

"Suicide is not an option. Changing one’s lifestyle is."

Hard to comprehend how a loss to $9B from $13B might impose devastating impact to lifestyle. Wouldn't it be great seeing Madoff placed in a pillary while awaiting sentencing? There's the lifestyle change imaged in my mind....

Re: Congratulations to all you predicted a fall in market

We are half way through today's session and it seems many of the group portend a deeply down day. IMHO we will finish lower but not the 179 drop the DOW took on today's low. With 6 up days in a row a breather is both healthy and required. Looking to reload on BC and add to PALM before tomorrow's announcement on a rumoured new OS for portables.

Re: GG Puts

Thanks Blue. I have asks on both, but there is a long line ahead of me.

Re: Gold Price Move

We've seen a few of these gold price moves.

Options expiry brings a sudden rally, so preceding the rally we have a price move downwards. In major corrections of the gold price, these rallies are much shorter-lived. The short-term price move would be the exhaustion of the options expiry rally, which started last month. We also have the effect of small volume buying at the outset of hostilities in the Gaza strip, which is probably easily shorted.

Nothing new there. I would wait until the options expiry date for a renewed uptick. Still a couple of weeks off.

Re: Congratulations to all you predicted a fall in market

Yesterday BC had what I believed to be a good set up (in the 60 min chart) in several indicators for a drop. Still looks weak in that time frame.
Short at $5.94

Re: Congratulations to all you predicted a fall in market

FD I liquidated all of my BC @ $6.02 and would be a buyer in the $5 - $5.10 range.

TNA

Looking for an entry...

gaps cont'd

there is a gap in Barrick gold at about $29 that looks as though it wasnts to get filled on this downdraft.

i suspect it will happen in the next few trading sessions before we resume an up-trend.

the more i study gaps on the big-cap gold miners the more im convinced these play a big part in the chopping price action as a trend is established.

Re: Congratulations to all you predicted a fall in market

That does look like a good price range for a cover and then buy

Re: Lifestyle Change

This year is the year when we discovered without a doubt that there are two America's, not one. If you get caught stealing, you go to jail.

If, however, lie about your company's balance sheet and bring down the global economy almost single-handedly, you get a golden parachute, and are allowed to go free with hundreds of millions.

African Americans used to say it, it was true then and it's true now. There are two America's, not one. There's one for the rich, and another for everyone else!

Jan 7 Weekly Report on India market

Deepak Lalwani of London writes a consistently good weekly report on India.

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OT: Ice Storm

Wonderful weather here in SE Pennsylvania.

Last night, I slipped on the ice and damn near killed myself. Was lucky to come away with just bruises and broken fingernails (I'm more protective of my nails than your average Bimbo, being a fingerstyle guitarist).

The electric power just came back on after a two hour absence.

I'm becoming quite envious of Bill and those of you headed to the Bahamas. :^)

Regards

Re: OT: Ice Storm

Bull Hunter are you an Eagles or Steeler fan? Am thinking the Eagles....:-)

Stopped out of UCO

Good morning! My stop limit order on UCO did get triggered this morning at $17 (today's high for UCO is shown to be $17.05 on Yahoo). Now I'll start the routine of taking my son to his preschool, and so as not to babysit UCO, I have just placed a buy stop limit order for the same 200 shares as I just sold, stop $15, limit $15.1, good for the day. When I return before the market closes, I'll re-evaluate the situation.

Public image

I don't find anything twisted about honest discussion.

It is really something to see how Israel has fashioned their culture's previous victimization into an unassailable American public image. So much so that even speaking of an alternative is labled "twisted", while said former victims enter their next day of military offensive mainly against civilians impoverished by their immediate neighbor.
It's simple. People living with social equity do not blow themselves up on buses or nightclubs. They don't launch rockets into neighboring countries.

In the meantime all resistance, justified or not, is labelled "terrorism" in the press, one side or the other holding that label depending on who is controlling the press.

The poor Palestinians. They don't have control of the press or an un-resisted massive genocidal victimization to fashion into unassailable self righteousness. No, we see them throwing rocks and launching primitive rockets from makeshift launchers while their crappy little barrio gets flattened by a modern military. Their genocide is one of imposed poverty and dehumanization. It's less obvious and much slower.

Something is twisted alright.

Re: OT: Ice Storm

yvrapx,

Steelers fan here.

They might win a game but their offensive line will probably keep them from advancing very far.

I suggested to the Steelers owner that he prop up cardboard cutouts of mean looking guys instead of fielding his current offensive line. The cutouts might scare the opposing defense more. :^)

Regards

The last guy....

In "The Pause of Mr. Claus" Arlo Gutherie talks about how comforting it is to know there are people that have it worse than us, but asks the rhetorical question..."what about the last guy, he doesn't have a road to lay down in for a truck to run him over".

That poor man Merckel was not the last guy though he might have perceived himself so.
The last guy lives in a swath from sub-Saharan Africa to Pakistan.

trading and learning is why I am here.

I purchased DOW today @ 16.42 after getting stopped out a few days ago. Now, using my poor skills at IB charting, do I see it breaking a trendline support for the day?
Also, anyone follow MRGE? I made a few $ on it recently, is on my watchlist and appears to be basing. Any thoughts? All comments appreciated.

The Housing Market, 2nd Wave of Foreclosures, and Job Loss:

It is a tragedy when an individual borrower defaults on the mortgage and loses his/her home. The tragedy is magnified when the borrower is a small business owner, employing from 1 to 10 employees. The loss of jobs related to mortgage defaults and the resulting business failures will further weaken our economy and prolong the recession.

On December 14, 2008, CBS’s "60 Minutes" had a segment on the 2nd Wave of Foreclosures. They indicated that experts were expecting another wave of mortgage defaults on ALT-A and Option ARMs mortgages which will dwarf the Subprime Mortgage Crisis. CBS MISSED A VERY IMPORTANT FACT!

Many fail to realize that there are millions of self-employed smaller businesses, who employ from 1-10 employees, that are holding the mortgages that are going to reset in 2009 through 2012. These borrowers are Prime and Near-Prime borrowers who hold ALT-A, Option ARMs, Interest-Only mortgages. There are $1 Trillion ALT-As, and $500-600 Billion Option ARMs.

So, here we have a major problem… Not only will these small business owners lose their homes, but there will be the resulting JOB LOSSES on their business failure. Note, although President-Elect Obama is stressing the need to create 3 million new jobs, we must understand that “JOB RETENTION IS AS IMPORTANT AS JOB CREATION”.

I authored a survey which was conducted by the National Association for the Self-Employed (NASE) to its national membership. The NASE Survey disclosed disturbing facts. The NASE survey is at http://www.nase.org . See the NASE News for the Survey on Toxic Mortgages. Please read my Commentary.

According to this survey, it is estimated that 3,709,800 small business owners hold Alt-A and other toxic mortgages, and 1,279,800 are already delinquent as they have missed one to three or more monthly mortgage payments at mid-November, before the expected Resets that are scheduled to begin in 4th Quarter 2008 through 2012.

The solution lies in the hands of Congress as they meet in January to structure an economic stimulus package. Congress should take note of this survey and be “proactive” in addressing the situation, rather than “reactive” as the case has been in the Subprime Mortgage Crisis.

We can’t afford another shock to our economic system at this time. This 2nd Wave of Foreclosures which will be caused by the ALT-A and Option ARMs will not only result in Foreclosures, but also Job Loss.

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re: Genocide

brown cal, you are right. I used the term incorrectly, perhaps emotionally although I have no particular connection to either side. Last night my better half and I had the discussion of not knowing what is like to live in violence.
peace

Re: GG Puts

Just filled short PUT GG Jan 16 27.5 for $1.00.

Re: OT: Ice Storm

Your on the money w/the o line but defence wins championships. If Big Ben can keep from getting concussed, the 'terrible towels' should be waving. I figure they will beat the Bolts as well but beyond that I think an updated injury report will be required. Enjoy the ice, it is apparently global 'warming' again...

15 year old cartoon proves somethings NEVER change......

Very funny.

Since I asked for investing-related words...

Investment contribution FWIW: I'm about 2/3 in, slowly laddering in on price dips. I tend to keep a list of what I think has reasonable past performance and upside chances over say 1 or 2 months, and buy a little of what dips, and sell a little of what seems to reach a few-days peak; I guess I rely somewhat on near-term reversion to the mean upslope. Current holdings like EGO, SSRI, IAG, KGC, SLW, LIHR, GDX, AZK, TRE, PAL, GRZ, PLG, WGW, MGN, NSU.

Re: 15 year old cartoon proves somethings NEVER change......

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BGZ

stepping out for a bit and putting my sell order in at 56.90 on the assumption that we will see a test of 900 S&P today.

Re: The Housing Market, 2nd Wave of Foreclosures, and Job Loss:

ALOHA !!

Great domino action Prof ... Thanks for tying in yet another domino into the toxic mix that the short term profiteers created over there in NYC and DC!! As if small business in America does not have plenty of other hurdles to jump ...

What will OBAMA do with small business? Too early to tell yet, but no matter what you want to call it I call it "intervention" the same old playbook the Bush regime and the Clinton regime and all the other regimes prior have been playing! Talk about the "bridge to nowhere"! That describes the two party political system here in America to a tee! THE VOTE TO NOWHERE!

In terms of starting a small business you have better incentives in Panama or Ghana!

We will finish

up on the day....added to SLW & SSRI

Re: RESETS

Kaimu,

Would you be able to post or provide a link to the Credit Suisse chart for resets?
TIA

Major Pension Plan Deficits

Not that the economy needs another big stress but...

The chaos that has been observed in the world’s financial markets over the last 12 months has had a major adverse impact on pension plan funding and will negatively impact corporate earnings in 2009, according to the latest estimates by Mercer. According to Mercer, pension plans sponsored by the largest US companies have seen a decline in funded status (the ratio of assets to liabilities) from 104 percent at year-end 2007 to 75 percent as of December 31, 2008. This equates to losses of an estimated $469 billion over 2008, causing an aggregate surplus of $60 billion at the end of 2007 to be replaced an estimated aggregate deficit of $409 billion at the end of 2008. The study by Mercer also shows that pension expense is likely to increase from $10 billion in 2008 to an estimated $70 billion in 2009.

http://tinyurl.com/9mvgke

Re: The Housing Market, 2nd Wave of Foreclosures, and Job Loss:

Prof. Samuel D. - Do you conclude the impact from Alt-A and Option ARM defaults aren't adequately figured into stock market prices?

SLW

2nd
brought again SLWCA at 1.50 and TNA/FAS

lots of falling knives to catch today...

UCO @ 14

Re: Getting Back To Currencies

The Brazilian Real is the toad's wild ride since the crash.

A homely parade in the currency ‘ugly’ contest

Posted by Gwen Robinson on Jan 06 11:46.

After the “flight to safety” panic of last year which saw investors flocking to government bonds among a dwindling choice of “save haven” investments, the mood appears to be turning nearly 180 degrees against government debt – as seen in the FT’s latest survey of leading asset managers and strategists, reported Tuesday.

Financial Times UK

Re: Merchant Banking Sector

We are seeing some financings going on in the Merchant Banking sector. What is important is that they are able to raise cash here and will probably use their money to lend to the resource sector.

PNP.TO

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=PNP.TO

QC.TO

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=QC.TO

EDV.TO

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=EDV.TO

OT, Has anyone booked at the

OT, Has anyone booked at the Hilton in Nassau yet?

My telephone inquiries regarding the conference group rate were met with a blank response.

Re: SLW

right on, vinod...in the process of trying to double the march 5 calls right now...

Good day to do some buying

Just my opinion.

Seriously about the market...

Does anyone have any solid ideas as to why gold, oil the dollar and stocks are all tanking today? Are the Indians selling their gold to pay for the Satyam issue? What the HECK is going on?

Chief Performance Officer

"Nancy Killefer, a director at McKinsey & Company and a former assistant Treasury secretary in the Clinton administration, will work with economic officials to increase efficiencies and eliminate waste in government spending."

Will Nancy Killefer also be charged with publishing metrics for eliminating government waste and spending?

Re: Please, trading and learning is why I am here.

Gray - The question I'd ask myself if I were you (after I bailed on my losing position) is why I felt compelled to enter ANY long position on a day when the overall market (for which I use ES [SPX futures] as a proxy) was in the process of rolling over after a multi-day uptrend, as evidenced by its 30-minute EMA(12), EMA(25) and SMA(50). I'd think it better (meaning more profitable) to wait until overall market conditions were more favorable to my trade.

[Confession: I've asked myself the above question far too many times....]

As for a longer-term investment in DOW (or most anything else), I'd wait at least until price (of the security in question) was above the daily EMA(12), and ideally until the EMA(12) crossed above the EMA(25).

Bear in mind that my idea of "longer term" is significantly shorter than most people's.

~OG

Re: Seriously about the market...

According to this guy it is Israel fault
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Submitted by shark_attack on Mon, 12/29/2008 - 08:57. #4565

"does anyone here wonder if the Jewish nation attacks the Arabs from time to time in order to provide good markets in which to unload precious metals and oil futures?"

Re: Good day to do some buying

Agreed! TNA @ 33.77

Re: Seriously about the market...

we can now say that the usual foolishness about commodity rebalancing was bunk.
gold toppled along w/ everything else.

indian buying has never been conclusively shown to have an effect on anything.
the overwhelming majority of gold changing hands happens via exchanges, not jewlery purchases.

stories of china or any other nation changing their forex strategies are equally dubious, the USDX is still above .80. gold is looking to move to the low end of the $800's and all the "last chance to board the gold train-hyper inflation-expand the money supply-the printing presses are working over time" crowd are being proven wrong again. and again. and again.

like any of the gold traders on this board need to hear yet another cautionary tale of how the fed's balance sheet is expanding, and how they will devalue the dollar and blah blah blah. thats all it is.

gold still hasnt descisively broken out of its down trend from the mid-08 peaks, check the charts. negative divergence all over the gold share charts on the last little spike. gaps on the way down are begging to be filled.
but the USDX is looking somewhat shaky relative to the plunge in gold. so i

ill be back in should some of those events clear themselves out. but not until then.

Re: Seriously about the market...

That's not fair. What I suggested is that the government people tip off the money people so that they can get positioned. It would be crazy not to, which is why I suggested it. Actually I am now inclined to think that YOU are the reason the market's falling.

Re: Seriously about the market...

Yes, I've been wondering if Saytam shareholders didn't have to do some major selling.

Here's what yahoo finance has to say about its major and institutional shareholders. Wonder if there is a better data source for this information.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=SAY

My last post

There are lots of places on the web where this "liberal" can go to encounter hate. I was hoping for something different here.

Adios

Re: Seriously about the market...

does antisemite ring a bell?
he's obviously very bitter about being what he perceives to be "half jewish"

Bill

Interesting thing...

When trying to do a search for QT's posts so that I might find one to use against him the way he did me, I discovered that you must have at least 3 letters to do a search. In other words, his posts are not searchable. Interesting, eh?

UCO

While I was out, my buy stop limit order for UCO was triggered at $15, even though its price chart did not reach $15 since the moment I placed the order. Next time I'll know better than to place tight buy stop limit orders on thinly traded stocks with a large bid-ask spread. One consolation is that I still want to have more UCO in my portfolio (I have been selling SWC with the intention of putting that money into UCO instead). I have placed a buy limit order for 200 shares at $13 and at $11. Hopefully, both of them will get triggered. If so, only THEN will I have enough UCO at a very good price (sub-11).

Given that I bought some UCO today, I decided to cancel my buy limit order for WGW at $1.35 and keep only the one at $1.25 (so as not to deploy my cash too quickly).

I am also very impressed with people who sensed yesterday the market's downturn. Great call, teamonfuego and others!

Re: Seriously about the market.../this thread needs to be zapped

seriously...

SIPC & Madoff

My impression is that SIPC was set-up to help protect investors from fraud at brokerage firms.

I regret that many lost their life savings with Madoff (but why would anyone give anyone all their money i.e. greed or stupidity).

Why is SIPC being used to bailout hedge fund investors? What a joke.

UCO

What a hit to UCO today! Placing a buy limit order for 100 shares of UCO at $13.80 -- who knows if these prices will be around tomorrow... Maybe my limit order at $13 will not get hit at all...

Crazy commodity day

What a crazy day for Oil... My USO sell order at 36.50 never went through, and the stuff dropped off the cliff! I'm now inclined to buy more at 33.30, averaging up the stuff I picked up at 30.15!

I think the GOLD game is one that is unlikely to just go in one direction for a long period of time. Too many people want to play that game in either one direction or the other, so the bullion, and all related stocks, will go up and down. While it's true that the primary down trend has yet to be broken, I'm optimistic due to macro conditions that we will eventually break new ground. For now, I dip a small amount each time I see a decent pullback of 5-10%. And just accumulate.

At the best, the world will magically fix itself and my 80-90% non PM related stuff will do really well. But at the worst, deflation will turn right back into modest and then hyper inflation, positioning gold as (at the very least) a play to stay in line with zero REAL growth! More likely, there would be some real growth as a result of the panic that will follow hyper inflation.

UCO

The buy limit order at $13.80 was just triggered for 100 shares. Now I can rest for today. :)

Buy in CAD$ or US$ for companies listed in both US and Canada

Currency basics:

Pros and cons of buying in CAD or USD.

I am getting ready to pull the trigger on some Gold miners and would like to know what goes through your head when deciding which to buy in the US or Canada (e.g. G Vs GG). The CARA 100 seems to list the NYSE ticker of the company.

If not buying gold miners does your strategy change?

Re: Seriously about the market...

Seriously Dr. Cosa, the market is what it is, but you have to love trading around the volitility.

Re: Please, trading and learning is why I am here.

Ditto on that one,

bought more TBT todat at 41.7....in so far at an avg. of 38.....anyone buy TBT today?

RE: the political banter of the day....I thought "possibly" the most insightful comment several days ago was made by a reporter who said in the effect, "Israel is nearing another election, so it's time to invade Palestine again."

I thought it was cleaver...whether it is true or not...no clue.

The sending of troops here and there by the heads of state is wearying and tragic but a cold hard fact.....and it is not going away soon.

Are the actions between Russia and Ukraine previews of things to come from a economically troubled Eastern Europe? Putinomics 101...

This is trading forum guys

Why don't we focus on things that UNITE us and leave things that divide us to forums devoted to those topics? It's not like there is lack of such forums.

I am pretty sure no one making any money or any friends while argues here over things that, in my experience, never led to any kind of cordial agreement on any of forums where those things were/are being discussed. Nor cordial disagreement - cordial being imperative word.

SLW

2nd
look like SLW is better buy than SLWCA
I feel I am wrong about S&P going near 1000?
I may be able to buy GG at 27

Re: SLW

vinod- i'm comfortable buying today...sometimes you have to think ahead a few steps...(for instance, i like the way bsi87 was stockpiling BGZ the past few days in preparation for the sell-off)...

Placing a stop on TBT

Difficult for me to decide where to put my stop in on TBT? $38 avg.

Comments from someone who lives in Israel

As an American who moved here 5 years ago, I offer a couple of comments for the community's information.

1) The decision to withdraw from Gaza was made my the Left wing of the government. In withdrawing from Gaza, 35,000 Israelis were forced to leave communities they had lived in for 40 years. Many of them still have not been resettled and live in temporary housing.

The Left felt that providing autonomy to Gaza was a first step toward implementing the Oslo Accords, which the Left supported and which were opposed by the Right.

The communities were farming communities and provided nearly 50% of Israeli produce. Gaza is some of the richest farmland in the country.

2) Since the withdrawal the farms have been dismantled and looted, despite an obviously well armed Palestinian police force that could have prevented this. The farms could easily have provided sufficient food for the Palestinian population of Gaza.

As a point of information, when Israel was first founded the leadership put an inordinate amount of focus on building the nation's agriculture, as it realized first you must feed your people.

3) Since the withdrawal 5000 rockets have been fired from Gaza into Israel reeking havoc on the surrounding cities of Israel.

I would suggest that any civilized nation that showed as much forbearance as Israel has should be given the benefit of the doubt. Instead we get a series of vicious posts about the Apartheid state.

Israel is not an Apartheid state 12% of the members of Israel's Kenesset are Arab, which corresponds the the 12% of the country's Arab population.

The Arab population of Israel has the highest per capita income and the lowest infant mortality rate of any Arab community in any country in the Middle East.

I live in the North in a city called Nahariya. The grocery store we shop in is owned by an Arab and I would happily trade net worth with him.

todays move

From a technical perspective, over the next couple months I think we will see a slowly upward drifting market with intermittent sharp and violent downside moves. Although at face value these violent down moves seem very bearish as they happen, they actually assist the major indices in dragging down their 200 DMA.

So, as odd as it sounds, I actually find these violent downside moves to be (long-term) bullish in that they create a setup for the long term charts by accelerating the process of moving down the 200/100/50/etc moving averages. I personally, would be much more concerned (bearish) if we drifted down (the same amount) slowly over many days.

I think today was a for the most part a ritual cleansing of those who chased the oil reversal too fast and furiously.

We'll see what tomorrow holds.

Ladies and Gentlmen, please............

For any of you that have been long time readers you will recall an instance a few years ago when there was trouble in the middle east, same parties same area, any and all comments almost ruined the blog, it was very detrimental to what we are supposed to be doing here, and that is learning and teaching. I for one dont appreciate having to rumage through posts to get to the relevant ones and would appreciate if any interested parties in such discussions would just do it through the contact author button, or better still set up your own chat room. Having said that i can disclose that i have no ties to the people of the area and would wish good health and prosperity to the people of the area, but for God's sake man, i wish that they would work out their problems like adults, children throw stones and then cry when they get hit by one.

Re: Seriously about the market...

From the big picture point of view, It seems gold isn't convinced government spending will or is resulting in inflation. Recent comments from the FED indicate some loss of confidence in a swing toward inflation ("economic recovery"). Perhaps the alphabet agencies anticipated bailing out a greedy and corrupt financial system and dropping overnight rates to zero would swing the pendulum, but hasn't? These agencies are clueless, can't see the forest.

The problem with the investment environment as I see it, is consumerism is dead or dying with corrective action emphasis simply on supporting the financial system at the expense of ignoring wealth generating activity.

The tail still wags the dog, governmental efforts address only symptoms. When will finance and government realize they are non-rev?

GG

Bought some @27

Re: todays move

I tend to agree. would love to see more 50 dma crossing up thru the 200dma. still far from that in majority of stocks.

Re: GG

MY order got filled at 27 for GG

CARA 100 PURCHASE

Anyone in on ATVI? Whee! Thanks Bill and the RSI link

people - just use the ignore button.

I am trying to smoke out my next trade. back to money making ideas for trading please :)

Re: GG

in GG at 27.15

GG or G.TO

Daily RSI 7 now under 40.
50DMA rising.
Unless the DJI is positive tomorrow the news media will announce that first 5 days are negative and therefore the world is about to fall apart etc. etc.
will be buying as the RSI goes back thru 40 with volume.

Anyone looking at

auy, su, drys?

Re: CARA 100 PURCHASE [ATVI]

ATVI -- I'm in. Showed up a few minutes ago on my bottom-feeder scan.

Today's Trades

wow, that was a doozy of a day for me. i sold all of my longs yesterday and loaded the boat on BGZ at 52.2, which i sold off at 56.6. i thought the downturn was pretty much exactly what i was expecting and i didn't want to get greedy. then i bought puts on XOM and rightly sold them 10 minutes later for a 10% loss. dumb move. then i bought a boatload of BGU at 37.03 and sold it a few minutes later at 37.35. i'm done for the week and am looking forward to returning next week and seeing where the values lie.

KBR

I meant to post this earlier, but got caught up in other things. They reiterated guidance last night (at $1.77/share) and approved a 10% stock buyback. Keep in mind that this company has $9.30/share in cash and no debt so it's trading at about $7/share ex-cash or roughly 4 times earnings ex-cash. I like this one a lot. It is an infrastructure play.

Next trade

A great price on TNA today if you believe another rally is coming soon. Personally, I think the rally was supported by energy, and energy fed by events in the M.E. this week. The immediate situation is winding down now, while traders are reminded economic problems are far from being defined... I'm considering SCO from here, or waiting for UCO to stabilize.

Re: Bit Of A Surprise Rally In JAZ/UN.TO

Fairfax Financial Holdings, (FFH.TO) announced that it would acquire more units of JAZ.UN.TO last month. JAZ.UN.TO now tops the list for insider buys:

http://www.tmxmoney.com/HttpController?GetPage=Ins...

Note how in the daily chart, this airline stock followed the decline in the oil price vs. the $CAD.

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Re: KBR

Great idea, I like that one too. Doing my DD now...

What a day!

Got TZA at 35 and got out at 38. Reloaded TNA at 33.5. Got some more oil (uco=14) in addition to my old fashioned USO.

What is remarkable today is that $USD and TLT did not go up on a major down day. Is the deleveraging and/or powerful dollar over for good?

BTW, please no politics or religion!

What a day!

I just looked up $CPCE and it's RSI(7) reached 80%. Highest in 3 years! Can someone with longer stockcharts subscription check when was the last time we had that? Thanks!

Re: Buy in CAD$ or US$ for companies listed in both US and ...

For companies cross listed US and Can the exchange rate is baked in and any difference in the stock price cross boarder will quickly be taken care of by the arbitrage traders.

Personally I trade many that are cross listed and I go where the liquidity is higher, just easier to trade. I also look at the location which has a liquid options market for the stock, usually the US as the Montreal options exchange volume is pretty low for most stocks.

ERX 3X Energy Bull

I sold the Feb 35 put for $4.10. Downside protection to $30.90. Margin requirement is $650. This is a 63% return on margin if you believe in such a calculation and if my good fortune in selling ERX options continues.

I know David likes trading this one. Option volume is picking up nicely on this newer Direxion product.

today's market internals - as of 4:30PM ET

Only 9 of 208 Morningstar's sub-industry groups were up today.

The down-draft in Precious metal stocks took Silver off its perch to no. 2 performer since the 11/20 bottom - up 116%, but now trailing semi-conductor memory, which is up 123%.

Gold stocks at no. 16 of the 208 are up 61% since 11/20.

Re: Crazy commodity day / USO

Yes Faxeli,

I was out most of the day shoveling snow, but did check a few times and wanted to get in on the pullback in USO. I expect a bounce tomorrow then maybe a little lower, who knows.

However put option premiums where up so I decided to put on half a position by selling a few Feb $30 puts at $2.20, so I'm covered down to the $28 range and I see lots of support there. If we just drift sideways or slowly down a little those premiums will be reduced, so best to sell OTM puts when there is panic.

I can't imagine it going much lower but of course myself and many others had the same feelings much of the way down to here.

Re: OT, Has anyone booked at the

Jim Watt, the conference organizer, is presently negotiating with them. Please hold off until Jim posts the reference number. He may actually be directly handling the bookings. I know he will post something in a day or two. I have been too busy on other things to follow that. Yesterday I worked from 5:30am through 1:45am and then some idiot did a crank call at 5am. So, I've been a bit groggy today. Then I return and see all the political nonsense, which caused me to spend 30-minutes (that I don't have) to delete stuff. To all those who sent me mail directly, I am sorry, but I don't have the time to respond.

And this was to be a vacation week!?

Re: What a day! $CPCE RSI(7) at 80 +

Jack Black, I have it on Stockcharts back to late 2003 on the daily data. Yes seems like thats the highest since then, it did hit about 75 in Nov of 03 and then about 78 in Aug of 04.

Don't Read This

I want to apologize for bringing up subject matter today which inspired many responses and counter responses, diverging meaningfully from the purpose of this blog.

If my rant kept a single one of you from going long stocks today then it was time well spent:)

I have noticed that I seem to have a particular sensitivity to certain market conditions; I get very edgy around important market turns. So what is the real meaning of todays economic events?

First of all, the unemployment report augers states that employers drastically cut payrolls in December, suggesting greater weakness in the economy than had been feared. These cuts will impact economic recovery going forward, as far a housing, and the consumer economy are concerned.

Volatility was up about 12% today, and it was obvious that today's selling was accomplished with gusto.

The Satyam scam has investors wondering just how many more Jack-in-the-boxes are out there waiting to jump out and scare us with phony accounting.

My conclusion.....It FEELS to me like the world's falling apart at the seams. I am beginning to wonder if we are heading, not out of a recession, but rather, INTO a depression. At least I'm depressed.

to Craig, re ES [SPX futures] as a proxy

Craig, thanks for your comment. Can you define what/how to chart spx futures? Thats not in my bag o tricks. re DOW, theres alot to like with that co. Slowly replacing some holdings with divi cos that hit Buy/accumulate signal on rsi tool. I've decided to simplify my approach by sticking to the Cara 100 and rsi entry unless tempted by other events and reasons. I still hold a small bag of pm miners. NOT.v held up kinda well today but I still reduced my position in it. Took on TBT as I am trying to scale into the TOG and got stopped out of TBT earlier in the week. Kinda scattered and jerky at this point but..thats how I dance anyway. lol. And, I do not have time/access to trading everyday. I have to fit my aims into the timeframe I got to work with. Falling into trap Vad mentions in his book of trying hard when down.
peace
and thanks Bill for the blog and your time

Re: What a day! $CPCE RSI(7) at 80 +

Thanks a lot! Mid Nov 03 and Aug 04 were good points to be long followed +10% spikes. I know that history doesn't repeat, but who knows?

Re: Don't Read This

Shark,

Eric Sprott thinks it's a depression.

http://www.sprott.com/pdf/marketsataglance/12_2008...

Re: Don't Read This

I for one was not surprised by the figures, kind of expected it, this all gets blown out of proportion once it is reported, we all know the king had no clothes but just didnt want anyone telling us because that s when we seem to believe it. I have personally been through worse, massive layoffs in the 80 s and early 90 s, company restructering in the new millenium, it seemed like all my life was lived in economic depression, but i put my nose to the grindstone, got out and did what i had to do to support a family and pay off my home, now im on the verge of paying it off a second time :), i for one will not let this get to me.

Re: Don't Read This

"It FEELS to me like the world's falling apart at the seams. I am beginning to wonder if we are heading, not out of a recession, but rather, INTO a depression. At least I'm depressed."

Traditionally, that feeling is associated with the bottoms, no?

But, you might be entirely correct about future depression. However, It would help to know if deflationary depression (a la 1930's) or inflationary depression (a la 1970's).

Re: Don't Read This

My summary of Sprott Article:

"The Apocalypse is here and gold is the only investment that will work in 2009. And, whaddya know, we have great precious metals funds you may be interested in."

This article is filled with all sorts of backward looking information. After reading Bill for the last couple years, I feel keenly aware of when:

A) Someone is trying to use their literary skills to help others become a better more astute/aware investors

B) Someone is yelling fire in a crowded movie theater

I am certainly not saying things are rosy, but give me a break Sprott!

Silver Wheaton Report will be ready shortly

Heads-up on the SLW report. I think you'll like it.

Re: Don't Read This

Good point. There is one important distinction to be made between this and traditional recessions...Don't call me a Commie 'cause I'm not one, but I think that this period, much like the '29 period does represent a...well lets' call it an

*total systematic failure of unregulated free market Capitalism*

In that way this does mirror the '29 period, but I will bear your thoughful comments in mind.

Re: OT, Has anyone booked the ?

Bill, thanks for the info. Sorry, I was no aware that all was not confirmed wrt to the conference. Flights are getting scarce from BC.
Now go get some sleep! :-)

Re: Don't Read This

I certainly agree that the article is suspect because of the interest he has in hawking his funds. However, what about the points he is making? Should they just be dismissed as an exercise of his literary gifts?

Re: OT, Has anyone booked the ?

"Re Bill, thanks for the info. Sorry, I was not aware that all was not confirmed wrt to the conference. Flights are getting scarce from BC."

Two weeks ago we had six people arrange holidays and book on the basis of a survey. Then after 100 people responded, we changed the date and the venue. I was really disappointed. As this is the First Annual, and I approach my life trying to meet other people's expectations, I knew there would be problems with the change, but I was really disappointed nonetheless.

At this point, we know the days. Those are firm. We will try to tie down discounts at the airlines, but the truth is if you wait and the price goes up 30% and you get a 5 or 10% discount, you missed a deal.

The hotel contract, though, is different. It involves charge-backs that I have to pay when people don't show -- for whatever reason -- and that could quickly get into a $50,000+ tab, which I am not going to readily accept. Atlantis wanted me to sign a contract, for example, that would have made me pay a minimum two room nights plus $170 each person each day for the food and beverage they would have consumed had they showed up -- even if the booking was made one day and the cancellation the next.

I'll go to the wall for people, but I am not GE or IBM. Those contracts are set up for corporations who bring their employees here. The hotel knows that a no-show possibly means a job termination. In my case, I could have crackpots I don't even know doing bookings and then cancelling. I hope you understand.

Jim is a pro organizer though. Before he sold his own company, his last AGM had 2000 attendees, and he cold-called Bill Gates from England to be his keynote speaker and Gates accepted. He will properly manage this conference. That frees me to do other stuff.

So, Jim Watt is negotiating a deal where I don't buy the risk. As soon as he gets a firm number, even initially, he'll book that, and then increase the numbers slowly.

Rusoro goes public ...

Rusoro's CEO today promoted his offer for GRZ, and made explicit his aim to consolidate the major gold deposits in Bolivar State, Venezuela:

http://www.reuters.com/article/innovationNews/idUS...

disclosure: long Rusoro

Re: Rusoro goes public ...

You nailed that call right on the head.

Re: Don't Read This

Shark,

No need for an apology. The topic is very relevant to worldwide markets. Public opinion and discussion is important. War affects people and markets besides being a moral issue.

I still hold an opinion that the hard line antics of Sharon were one of the contributing factors to bringing on the last recession. Very unsettling.

QT went off the rail in calling you antisemitic. That's the final poker card he could play.

SRS

just bought a bunch of SRS afterhours at 52.50. with the bad retail sales, lots of stores will be closing this year. i know about the compounding impact on ultras, but i'm expecting to sell this at a nice profit at some point this winter/spring.

Re: Don't Read This

*total systematic failure of unregulated free market Capitalism*

IMO, it's a bit more complicated than that... We didn't have unregulated market, we had/have misplaced regulations and deregulations. Pushing down the ladder lending practices "to anyone with pulse" was kind of shadow regulation - not in a written form but marching orders nonetheless. So was installation of FRE/FNM logistics behind the mortgages. Lifting leverage limits in fractional reserve system on the other side of equation was deregulation that magnified the negative effect. So did the refusal to regulate the derivatives.

In another example, no one cared to look into ungodly bonuses of shaky financial firms... yet, on another side of spectrum it was deemed necessary to install 25K rule for day traders which is anything but "free unregulated market", and brought a lot of harm in many regards.

I guess, examples of misplaced regulations and lack of such can be much longer, those are the ones on the top of mind

Re: This is trading forum guys

Touche Vad.
For Bill: I wonder if its possible to add a 'warning' type line when you add a comment along the lines of "Does this post relate to trading, if not please post elsewhere". If we got rid of the non-trade posts it would be much easier and quicker to read through the posts. I've been occasionally guilty of doing this and believe a polite reminder would be of value (IMO).

Re: Rusoro goes public ...

One reason that the tender offer will not go through is the fact that the GRZ shareholders and the RML speculators will head for the sell door at the same time to close their respective positions. Considering that the average daily volume is only 350K shares a day on the TSX and under 30K on the Pink Sheets in the USA, how will they liquidate their new Rusoro shares without devastating the stock price? And these sellers need to get it done quickly before the BOD and "other interested parties" obsorb the Gold Reserves 100 million cash register. Remember Rusoro spent 40 million of their 60 million cash position between June 1 and August 31 of '08. Rusoro can clean out those Gold Reserves current assets easily in 7 months. GRZ shareholders clearly know this and Rusoro is just trying to put lipstick on a pig in these last two weeks. If they do not get control of GRZ, RML is out of business. They are going to say and do anything at this juncture.

Vad

Vad,

You couldn't be more correct. Misplaced regulation for many, total deregulation for some. Just try burning leaves in your yard or stop recycling plastic, and all of a suddden...Wham! And don't get me started about those daytrader rules.

For those who don't know, once you are a "pattern day trader" in a plus-25k account, if you should ever fall below that figure do you revert to a normal margin acct (3 daytrades every 5 days)? No. They pull your margin, and you are basically never allowed to daytrade, or once a week, or some thing along those lines. It's crap.

Re: RESETS

ALOHA !!

I cannot post the RESET charts of Credit Suisse as it is a private report! I am sure other charts exist that are similar. I think I have seen them at Now and Future before.

Sorry, but I do not have time to get permission ...

Re: Seriously about the market...

shark said: "Does anyone have any solid ideas as to why gold, oil the dollar and stocks are all tanking today? Are the Indians selling their gold to pay for the Satyam issue? What the HECK is going on?"

Been a bit busy to follow today's action too closely but I'll venture forth:

The Oct.-Nov. crash was unprecedented, or at least rare and scary. We all heard the subsequent talk (squack?) about massive deflation. Specifically, ALL assets got smashed during this time - gold, oil, equities, bonds (across all rating levels) - everything. Why that happened, well, we've discussed it in depth here(AIG? Lehman? GM+? etc). What followed, mid-Nov. to date, is a bit of a panicky return to sanity reflected in many relatively dramatic rises. See, for e.g., TCK (+100% - not bad for Canada's largest extensively diversified mining enterprise), or LQD (+24% - outrageous for AAA rated corporate bonds), or EWZ (BRAZIL), FXI (CHINA), INP(India) (+38%, +51%, +42%, respectively - not bad for the 3 largest dynamic economies on the planet). Seems to me that today represents, potentially, nothing more than a little healthy profit taking and removal of excess and risk. Personally, I'd be a little bit more afraid if today had been yet another across the board up-day. Disappointed, also, because I am still doing my moves and researches to allocate more fully into these recovering markets.

Re: RESETS

kaimu - Thanks for the response. I understand.... I'm sure I can find it somewhere.

Re: Seriously about the market...

I personally think the 12% decline in the oil price today puts the nail in the coffin of the post-bust rally, and if there is another sovereign debt default, then you may as well take Sprott's word for it.

Economic realities around me

I survived a big round of layoffs today where I work. Some really, really good people were let go. Smart, capable, efficient. Parents. One friend of mine who was laid off recently lost her husband to a long illness. Another is quietly and doggedly fighting cancer. These people were already fighting tough realities. It puts a terrible pit in the gut. Never thought I'd feel so awful after not losing a job.

My wife also recently survived a round of layoffs where she works, but expects this to be just the first phase of a waning tide there, inevitably ending in closed doors. We are fortunate that we both have our jobs at the moment, and I am able to do my job and trade to augment that income, but the many human stories unfolding all around me has started to make me more angry than I want to be, and I fear that all this fraud and incompetence will largely go unpunished. I fear there will be no indictments, and that enough time will pass that the public will tire, and lose the seemingly (and shockingly) small degree of outrage that does exist today. Those of us who go about our lives doing the right thing for our kids, family, and employers, are the ones paying the price.

I know, I know.... "I fear, I fear, I worry, what if, etc..."

It's why I read Bill so eagerly every morning. He's talking hope, hope, hope while understanding the economic circumstances far more deeply than I do. But the faces I saw today and the tears shed today put a hole in my hope tank.

As far as trades go, I only briefly watched today's action. I stared with dim eyes at 5-minute intraday charts of my AGU and SLW. I probably should have trimmed, being up in both. Still learning how to be willing to be more nimble, trading more to preserve gains instead of holding through swings in the name of Confidence In The Position.

Looking forward to reading the SLW report.

Silver Wheaton Report now ready

Here is the link for the SLW Briefing.

Warning: It's 100 pages and 15MB. We put a lot into this report. Please share it with your associates. The share price sell-off today may skew some of the remarks, which were done a couple days ago, but, as we have nothing to sell, I decided to release it without change.

http://billcara.com/briefings/SLWBriefing.php

We are working on two or three other reports that we hope to have published in the next six weeks. After that we intend to do one per month.

The CTAB website will go live tonight. A new Cara Bahamas 2009 Conference brochure will be posted after that.

Here is the link to the new CTAB site. http://caratrading.com

There may be minor glitches, but if you let us know, they will be quickly fixed.

In the near future, there will be new websites for BillCara.com and TraderWizard.com.

Yes, we have been busy. This has been a remarkable team effort.

Re: Seriously about the market...

Oil is just basing and will expierience the whipsaw action that the broader went through for the last couple of months.

Re: Seriously about the market...

Fransix said: "I personally think the 12% decline in the oil price today puts the nail in the coffin of the post-bust rally, and if there is another sovereign debt default, then you may as well take Sprott's word for it."

...OR, maybe markets are just still vulnerable to excessive interday volatility while these volumes remain low and the conservative money remains on the sidelines. I bought lots of OIL stuff December 12 and despite today's drop, and tommorow's inevitable gap-down, I'll be happily in the green whatever and feeling quite comfortable going forward. Shake away, markets; I ain't falling out of the tree.

First day and first 5 days of

First day and first 5 days of New Year will tell how market is going to perform rest of year
We know first day was up and fifth day is tomorrow
Market movement tomorrow will be important to see where we will be going.

Re: Rusoro goes public ...

Greg, you seem to know what will happen between Rusoro and GRZ. I don't. But, I AM impressed by the the chess game which Rusoro has played in the difficult political environment of Venezuela. They are becoming a mid-tier producer, and have the only JV with the gov't, as forseen in the draft mining legislation. As a result, neither GRZ's nor KRY's positions in Venezuela are worth a plug nickel!

Perhaps GRZ ends up selling their concession but keeping their cash, if their long-suffering shareholders will allow it. As a GRZ shareholder, I wouldn't have much confidence in GRZ management. GRZ has spent 15 years in VZ, and come away with nothing. Over the period, GRZ shareholders have lost 90% of their money. I think Doug Berlanger is a good mining guy, but hasn't a clue about how to play Latin politics.

I'd expect GRZ shareholders to tender their shares and hold those of Rusoro. Am I missing something? Maybe so. I'm open-minded. I don't care about "making a point". I just want to make money.

Satyam Chairman, letter to the Board...

What a crook, being in the company for 20 years and you don't know what is going around with your books! Such a discourage to the company and the country itself.

(pdf document)
http://tinyurl.com/953c6d

Re: First day and first 5 days of

Not to be impertinent Vinod, as I value reading your posts, but do you have a scholarly study related to this alleged phenomenon?

Re: What a day!

Great work, I'm joining in once I see the opening tomorrow...

Re: First day and first 5 days of

Mackinaw
No. I do not have any study. What I have is a note book where I write note from book I read, from Bill’s WIR and daily report or from web article I have read.

Re: Don't Read This

illini

"QT went off the rail in calling you antisemitic. That's the final poker card he could play'

You are a LIAR! Back up your comment...I did no such thing. I made one post today and it was just a repost of what Shark said the other day. There were other posts calling him that, but none of them were made by me.

Re: Rusoro goes public ...

Jock,
As you stated, a GRZ shareholder that tenders would have to have a longer term desire to hold his/her RML shares in order to liquidate them on large volume days. But it seems to me with human nature that there will be a run on RML if the tender works out in RML's favor. It would be short though, even intraday, since the share price of RML would drop quickly making liquidation unfavorable. GRZ shareholders must be considering this in the possible tender of their shares. I also think that if all was going as planned by RML, they would be very quiet right now rather than going to press. They could dismiss all the GRZ press if it was in the bag for them.

Re: Don't Read This

The problem with these discussions is nobody really knows the entirety of what goes on. Napoleon had a great saying, "History is merely a fantasy upon which we all agree." Each side has righteousness on their side. Just ask anyone who agrees with them.

Mortgage Resets Chart

Found the Credit Suisse chart.

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question on LEAPS

David, Blue Bluff or others...

Looking at long-dated calls (as my broker requires wayyyy too much equity to be able to write uncovered puts, i'm thinking covered calls on stock i own may be a nifty idea).

eg= USO, currently 33.27 option chain=OLLAI, current bid 11.10

buy 100 shares -3327 write 1 contract +1110

1)not exercised = $1110 gain and still holding USO. alternative view; cost basis of 22.27 per share

2)exercised = +3500 (+1110 initial) = 4610 for a gain of 38.6% or annualized at around 17.7% if exercised in Jan /11. (assuming USO bought with cash, not margin), otherwise if bought on 30% margin, % gains are even higher. not too bad really, but for the misery of having to hold USO the whole time when it could be trading at $60 for eg.

questions: 1) am i missing something?
2)do these long dated calls usually get exercised in a reasonable time-frame. ie if USO rises to $40 next week, will majority of these 'long-daters' get exercised? or do i have to hold and watch my non-profits rise and rise yet again?
3)who are your options brokers (in Canada hopefully) Cheers!

Re: Silver Wheaton Report now ready

wow! better than anything i have come across from Silver Wheaton's own ir section of their website or analyst.

haven't read all 100 pages and skimmed 1st pass.

Loved the tech analysis section
Loved the summaries of the diff silver mines

My take aways:
The expectation for slw to renogiate the debt covenants in q1, and that news positively impacting the shares.

Resistance
$7, $8 and $10.63 will be big challenges

Price objectives (no time frames)
$8, 9.85, $11.70

I don't want to discount the great 100pages with my short blurb. everyone should study it and the logic applied to the analysis.

Re: Don't Read This

Sorry QT,

And I apologize for the misquote. A "find" search tells me it was actually someone named Quote270. A new poster? Maybe on the staff of AIPAC.

I do offer my sincerest mea culpa.

Re: Don't Read This

Illini

Thank you and I apologize for my choice of words. Take care in Georgia! :-)

oral skills?

Kaimu, please put a sock in it. We need to come together as a people and solve the serious issues our fine elected officials have gotten us into by our own collusion and greed. Teamwork works best when members show respect for each other. I don't care what other people think...I think you are better than political slurs and bum jokes. Your admirer, loannetter

Re: New CTAB site

Excellent, Bill. And I had no idea you were a Mac grad :) My family, through employment (geologists), and enrolment have been associated with that venerable institution since 1946! Best of luck with this enterprise, although we all know it won't be a matter of luck.

TCK

Placing $4.50 stink bid on TCK

8-Skate rotate, baby needs a new pair of shoes!

SLW Report

Thank you very much CTAB on a very fine presentation, very impressed with the technical analysis and the fine explanations that go along with it, something you can read over again once or twice a week to apply to all of your needs.

Re: TCK

Don't forget ECA (Encana), Pook. Albeit only a 60% gain since the nightmare, but still considered to be Canada's Crown Jewel. :)

Guys.....

I conclude that the stress, angst and recriminations evident today are symptomatic of a material worsening of our national and human condition.

Clearly something is afoot, the job destruction I have been predicting for years is coming home to roost.

We the People, have been under attack by 40 years of Republican and market-oriented politics whose very promise has always been to marginalize the individual in favor of the corporate structure.

I am sorry for contributing to the dispirit that has been the hallmark of this terrible day which, I worry, may portend more trouble to come.

The America we knew, or thought we knew....that's been disappearing for the past half-century.

Please don't tell Kaimu to put a sock in it. He's a smart guy, he's got good points of view and that's not a nice thing to say. I hate to think I contributed to this, but I have.

Gold Wheaton

Great SLW report!

I was wondering, has anyone out there looked at Gold Wheaton? From the bit of research I've done, I know they have bought gold streams from First Uranium's new mine and a mine from FNX, and a company called RedCorp. If I understand correctly FNX mining holds a majority stake (part of the deal for the gold stream). Haven't had time to do much more research but I saw that someone involved with SLW is getting involved in management of GLW - can't find article link off-hand.

Re: Silver Wheaton Report now ready

"There was an error opening this document. This file cannot be found".

Any help from anyone would be appreciated.

Re: Silver Wheaton Report now ready

"There was an error opening this document. This file cannot be found".

Any help from anyone would be appreciated.

Re: Guys.....

Shark,

Think about the alternative models going forward. Who's bustling for center stage in the world? Russia and their beligerant oligharcy? China, proud, industrious, and yet insecure? Latin America; boisterous, fun-loving, but unlikely to take the lead. The current promise of this planet is squarely on the plate of America. And this is a situation not unwelcome by most rational planet-dwellers. I have complete confidence that the new, exciting, promising, and transparent(!) developments going forward will be coming from America. Let's not forget that it remains the Land of Promise and Dreams. You cannot imagine, Shark, just how seemingly unattainable an American lifestyle is to most of the inhabitants of this planet. While I'm a great fan of the intellect of the Rubinis, Schiffs - and even Kaimus - they remain a small contingent rowing against the current.

sonnypage

I had similar problem. If you're on Vista, my apologies. Click on the start icon circle, double click on your name, open downloads to find SLW. Move to wherever

Shorting setups

I know some of us here are trading TRA. Leavitt bros (subscription site) is calling TRA, ACI, ADSK BRCM and others as prime short setups. dyodd

Re: Guys.....

Shark,

"Get a grip"! That's what the Roman generals said to their embattled troops. If they failed they were decimated (1 in 10 killed). We today are warriors of a different sort. Its only money. 10%,that's not bad.

Hope your Mom is doing as well as can be expected.

Re: Guys.....

Oh man, talk about China... Laid off factory workers have nowhere to sleep at night now, and they're vandalizing their old work places.

Mom

Thanks for asking, she's doing great, I have a real nurse coming in twice a day to check blood levels, gives insulin and pills, it's been working out. As for her condition, she has, thus far, made a recovery that could be accurately described as remarkable. Times like these remind me to be thankful for all that is good. And I do have the best cat in the whole wide world.

I also want to mention to the poster Alan, from much earlier today, I appreciate your informative and thoughful post.

Re: Guys.....

CP says:
"Oh man, talk about China... Laid off factory workers have nowhere to sleep at night now, and they're vandalizing their old work places."

Don't read too much into the headlines, Pook. At my workplace, enrollment is up, this semester, from Pacific nations, especially China. The momentum of 1B people, emerging from an inequity, will not be held back by a few shady operators on Wall Street.

Re: The Housing Market, 2nd Wave of Foreclosures, and Job Loss:

To Chickenpookie,
I don't believe that the stock market is aware that there are possibly millions of "underwater" and "Negatively Amortized" small business owners who may fail and spike the ranks of the unemployed for their 1-10 employees. One thing that we can ill afford is a large increase in the unemployment rate.

In my discussions with respected economists, they admitted that nobody has looked at the Foreclosure and "Toxic" mortgage crisis from this angle. I hope that Congress will recognize that we must address this issue, soon.

Re: Sonnypage - Silver Wheaton Report now ready

Sonnypage, yes I assume you are running some version of Microsoft and Mr Softy has a bad habit of guessing what you want to do. I always select the folder where I want to put my downloads manually but your system may be in automatic mode.

One way is to do a search in explorer for the file, as long as you did not rename it during the download,
then move it to a folder of your choice.

SLWBriefing.pdf

Re: oral skills?

"Kaimu, please put a sock in it."

loannetter - So we shouldn't be attempting to assess the economic damage and point out where we believe mistakes are being made? You had mentioned something about Feb 5th being an important date, I'm still waiting to hear why... I didn't get the moratorium memo.....

Re: The Housing Market, 2nd Wave of Foreclosures, and Job Loss:

Prof. Samuel D - Thanks for your response. I have been wondering about this very subject for weeks now. The second wave is supposed to be as large as the first, but I have heard "financial experts" claim the damage is already factored into equities prices. I don't believe them.

Anyway, we here are expecting a re-test of the market lows coming within weeks, with a possibility of new lower lows predicted by various technical analysis mechanisms. One of the strongest signals comes from elliot wave theory.

Reading your white paper was helpful, thank you very much for the heads-up!!!

the woes of a new computer ...

End of Nov. I tried to save, then had to swap a 4 year old dead Dell. Days on the phone to India with Dell and MS. (BTW, both now do have smart, trained people on the phone. Old PCs' problems are just too bloody complicated).

Only now are things back together. Now I can post again! And MOST of my files and settings are transferred, and software now installed. Still hassling with a too-sophisticated wireless printer.

They want to sell new gear, right, so why is it such a HASSLE to switch, 25 years into the "PC revolution" ?

Re: TCK

Mack - I really liked TCK because it was sold down so ridiculously hard while they had just acquisitioned a very important asset. Don't you think TCK has more upside potential $$?

$$$$$ Get in my belly!!!!

Re: Ok, Peter, Now Tell Us How You REALLY Feel

Presenting Peter Schiff!!

http://watch.bnn.ca/trading-day/january-2009/tradi...

As kaimu would say: ALOHA!!!! OUCHIES on EVERYBODY!!!! EVERYBODY!!!!

Re: the woes of a new computer ...

"They want to sell new gear, right, so why is it such a HASSLE to switch, 25 years into the "PC revolution" ?"

VISTA includes new features to make the transition easier, but older MSFTY software don't. Don't worry though, they're not likely to get it right in your lifetime.

Re: Ok, Peter, Now Tell Us How You REALLY Feel

Nice handlebars. I couldn't watch - all night downloading a video over modem. :(

Re: RESETS

Here is the link to the Credit Suisse "Reset" chart

http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/wp-content/uplo...

Re: Sonnypage - Silver Wheaton Report now ready

Quasi

You were right, "Mr. Softy" indeed would not let me open the SLW report. I gave up, went in through Firefox and had no problem. Heads up to anyone else who has a problem, try Firefox.

Great report. I needed that after today :-)

I got very long SLW late November under $3.00, have taken nothing off.

OT: What is life?

Thanks for all meaningful posts members shared today.

Something to help us all lighten up.

http://tinyurl.com/9qm3lv

buying USO

I figured that I should divide my bets on a rising oil price into two categories: long-term core position and a short-term speculative position (which I will increase as the price falls and decrease to 0 as the price rises). Now, because of the value erosion in ultra-long ETFs, I figured that I should hold my long-term core position in USO, and the short-term trading position can be in UCO. Since I have some UCO shares already, I am canceling my buy limit orders on UCO and instead placing a buy limit order for 200 shares of USO at $31.

preparing to take profits on UCO

Placing a sell limit order at $17 for 3/5 of my UCO shares.

JPM HIERARCHY

ALOHA !!

When the US TAXPAYERS bailout JP MORGAN who are they bailing out? If you go to this link you will see JP MORGAN "PARENT" but then look at the 276 pages of various other JP MORGAN holdings all over the USA and around the World.

No wonder the US FED is not disclosing who got what? They probably don't even know! Wouldn't it be embarrassing for Ben to say, "Sorry, but we lost track of who got what bailout money, because we can't keep track of what bank owns what!!" You'd have to hire an army of CPAs to just track all the money flows from all the various JP MORGAN entities listed in the HIERARCHY REPORT at the NIC. The link is below ...

UNREAL !!! What CPA could sort out any of this and yet JP MORGAN sits as administrator and custodian of practically every ETF in the known World!

This link is from the NIC-National Information Center who collects and compiles data for the US Federal Reserve.

Link: http://tinyurl.com/758nmf

JPM DATA

ALOHA !!

Some financial data on JPM prior to the RESETS coming up later this year.

NIC REPORT ON JP MORGAN FINANCIALS(ending Sept. 30 2008)

- Unsecured real estate loans equals $4.8bil(pg 11)
- Net loan/lease losses $19bil Q3/2008 compared to $8bil Q3/2007,up 240%(pg 14)
- All residential, commercial, industrial loan losses increase except agriculture decreases(pg 6)
- Credit default derivatives(investment grade)$6.1tril 2008 up from $2.9tril in 2007(up 210%)
- Credit default derivatives(non-investment grade)$3.1 tril 2008 up from $1.2tril in 2007(up 260%) (pg 15)

First off, how do I get an unsecured real estate loan or do I have to be a JP MORGAN CEO?

So all through 2008 JP MORGAN has been increasing its exposure to the most toxic real estate loans and derivatives by substantial amounts. When they ask for another BAILOUT this year what would be the criteria for rewarding them for their added risk exposure? MORE RISK = MORE BAILOUT is that what America is now?

A "non-investment" grade derivative? Is that anything like the Illiquid Trade Clause in Proshares ETFs?

Then I decided to verify what Peter Schiff spoke of in the linked video regarding US Treasuries and how he says everyone in Treasuries are speculators since they have no intention of holding those Treasuries to maturity. Well you can verify that via the NIC, under PEER GROUP REPORTS section. The PEER GROUPS are US banks segregated by total asset value. The highest ranking is PEER GROUP #1 where this grouping includes US banks with assets that exceed $10bil, of which JP MORGAN is rated in the PEER GROUP #1 category.

There in the "Securities" section where they list US Treasuries the breakdown is the following:

HELD TO MATURITY=5.6%
AVAILABLE FOR SALE=94.4%

Totally skewed to bubble proportions. That means nobody is LONG TERM! Once again this speaks to floundering fiat currency confidence. Nobody, even banks can be sure where safety is. Fiat is built on the ever shifting sands of government promises and spending. All currencies are "floating" now ... tethered to "faith and credit"! Nothing I would ever care to bank on for the LONG TERM!

IT ALL WORKS ...

Porn Industry wants Bailout!

Bailout Gone Wild

http://tinyurl.com/7rkdhs

Re: Don't Read This

Was catching up on the overnight comments and was reminded of a piece on the Op ed page of the National Post over the weekend. I think Ezra Levant hits the nail squarely on the head with his 'Not quite the 1930's' piece, remember fear sells.
http://tinyurl.com/7u7fsp

Re: Economic realities around me

Its good that you still have the ability to care. Its not easy looking for a job these days. Congrats on managing to survive another round. All I've got left is my investments, now, and it feels a lot riskier when there is no income or free healthcare, so I'm taking a lot less risk, probably at the worst possible time to be doing so.

Re: Guys.....

Shark Attack, Perhaps a little late to apologize to Kaimu...but for the record I find the politcal stuff counter productive. Nobody would dare suggest that Kaimu is not smart! However, political gesturing just stirs up emotions which clouds the mind. It's our party and we need to fix our creation with clear minds....not whine and point!

February 5th

Pook, you have unmasked my dart in and out habit. Work in the world here. Februar 5th prediction is when astronomical clashes with our overhead clear space...making decisions for us according to Madeline Gerwick:

"Since May 2000 an economic revolution has been unfolding .... this forty-year cycle of economic revolution, we’re now in the midst of a sixteen year cycle to transform the economy...you probably noticed the lower prices for gasoline and oil, but also the lower prices for nearly any item you can imagine, as evidenced by the many sales we had right before the holidays....Saturn quincunx Neptune (150 degree aspect). This cycle is basically a downward adjustment in prices, but it’s very temporary. It started back in late October and we had it through the holidays. It begins separating or lessening on December 31st and it moves out of this pattern completely by February 5th.Saturn opposes Uranus exactly for the second of five times on February 5th. Do you or your company have situations which have become intolerable and need changing? The Universe is here to help! You’re about to make those changes, whether you’re ready or not. Time’s up! If you don’t make the changes needed, the Universe will provide your world with a mini-quake to make them for you." http://www.polarisbusinessguide.com

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