[7:54am ET] There are thousands of US small and mid-size companies that rely on lines of credit from CIT Group (CIT), a well managed financial services company that apparently will need to declare bankruptcy because it may not be able to meet about $2.7 billion in liabilities coming due in the second half of the year.
Why is this happening? Ask Treasury Secretary (and ex-NY Fed President) Tim Geithner, current NY Fed President (and ex-Goldman Sachs chief economist) William Dudley and JP Morgan’s CEO Jamie Dimon, the man who basically controls the NY Fed. These are the people who know why CIT is cut off from essential backing from the US Treasury and the Fed, whereas AIG received almost $200 billion in federal aid.
http://tinyurl.com/mjcbd4
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aINWOYTgy2zk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program
The answer of course is that Goldman Sachs was the biggest counterparty to AIG debt and JP Morgan was another. AIG was merely a conduit of money from the US taxpayer to these banks. In the dealings of these banks with anybody, it's a matter of they win, you lose.
Here is the CIT corporate profile:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=CIT
Did you know that CIT Group's Corporate Governance Quotient (CGQ®) (as of 1-Jul-09) is better than 93.9% of S&P 500 companies and 99.4% of Diversified Financials companies?
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/finance/news_and_opinion/fitacgq.html
Did you know that JPMorgan Chase's Corporate Governance Quotient (CGQ®) is better than 84.7% of S&P 500 companies and 97.6% of Diversified Financials companies?
Did you know that Goldman Sachs's Corporate Governance Quotient (CGQ®) is better than 45.4% of S&P 500 companies and 87.8% of Diversified Financials companies.
Wow; a 93.9% rating vs 84.7% and 45.4%!
But, it's no longer about doing the right thing, is it? It's all about not losing money, and in fact making it, regardless of the strategies and tactics employed.
I’m wondering today how much profit GS and JPM traders have made shorting CIT stock?
Here are the Monthly-Weekly- and Daily charts:
http://billcara2.com/tkchart/tkchart.asp?stkname=CIT&ind=rsi&wt=3
http://billcara2.com/tkchart/tkchart.asp?stkname=CIT&ind=rsi&wt=1
http://billcara2.com/tkchart/tkchart.asp?stkname=CIT&ind=rsi&wt=0
With President Obama surrounding himself with alligators, I don’t see how he expects to clean up the swamp.
Now and then we all have to get out. This week is mine. Have a good one. Geoff, Patrick, korvus and Matt will keep the show on the road in my absence.
Comments
Cara 100 Ratings Changes
Good morning.
Upgrades:
BBY - to Outperform @ Oppenheimer. PT Raised from $40 to $42
SNDK - to Overweight @ Thomas Weisel
PT Raised:
GOOG - from $442 to $465 @ Jefferies & Co. Buy
INFY - from $35 to $40 @ Jefferies & Co. Buy
Mark- Twelve hours later and it's all a bad dream
I would think about paring the counter-trend trades, however. You never know.
GS upgrade
Meredith Whitney upgrades GS to Buy, which must mean "blow-out" earnings.
Could spark disapproval.
http://in.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idINInd...
Ilyushin
Re. WIR, "Ilyushin Il-62M". Bill, hope you brought ear plugs with you...
We joked that resorts there were littered with old pieces of those fallen from the skies.
Nymex NGas Aug09- low 3.259
http://www.nymex.com/ng_fut_cso.aspx
Cara 100 Update
INFY - Upgraded to Hold @ Stifel Nicolaus
Cuba and Term Limits
Bill, perhaps while in Havana someone will mention the concept of term limits. In the USA, term limits haven't slowed the good-ol-boy's club for at least 8 generations:
"Obama and Cheney, Making Connections
Wednesday, October 17, 2007
Vice President Cheney is related to Sen. Barack Obama.
At least that was the stunning announcement made yesterday by Lynne Cheney, who said that the very white vice president from Wyoming is in fact the eighth cousin of Obama, the Senate's only African American member. She said she discovered the link, traced back to a Huguenot who figured prominently in Maryland history, while researching her latest book."
Is the rumor Fidel has re-settled in Miami after retirement really true?
ECU Silver
davefairtex,
Not sure if you ever got an answer, but I bought shares in my TD Ameritrade account using symbol "ecuxf". The spread is wide and the volume thin so I suggest limit orders. If it helps with currency conversion rate, ECU.to showed a close of $0.51 at stockcharts Friday, while TD shows a close for ecuxf at $0.4355. Looks like pretty strong support for ECU.to in the $0.49 - $0.50 range so I might add a few more shares this week. Good luck.
Cara 100 Update
POT - PT Lowered from $120 to $100 @ RBC. Outperform
CIT Survival Plan
Simple: Just sell a couple-hundred $billion Credit Default Swaps to Goldman Sachs!
UNG
nat gas is getting schelacked.UNG under 11.00?
Re: UNG
vinod- July is the seasonal low for NGas. The next two weeks might be a good time to buy. Then watch for tropical storms in August. Under 11? I doubt it.
Monday Morning Tid Bits
"July’s options expirations week (expirations take place on Friday). Options expirations weeks are usually positive, especially when the week before follows its usual pattern of being negative, which this week did.
But while expirations weeks tend to be positive through the year, the July expirations week tends to be negative, down 6 of the last 9 years. (In 2002, the last year of the 2000-2002 bear market, the Dow lost a big 4.4% on the July options expirations day alone). So we shall see.
And the week after options expirations weeks tends to be negative anyway, and that is so also of the week after July expirations, which have been down 7 of the last 11 years."
[Sly Harding]
~~~~~~~~~
See attached chart...
"Adding a bit more fuel to my argument is that we now finished a fourth week to the downside on the Dow and that is the maximum since the start of Primary wave c. So, chances are we are going to finish higher next week."
[molecool]
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"We saw a small change in the McClellan Oscillator Friday, suggested a large price move is likely early next week"
[McHugh]
[Bev: This small move in the McClellan always seems to result in a big move.]
~~~~~~~~
So today they're bidding up financials and selling technology
So what I should've done last Friday was sell FAZ, hold FXP, and buy QID? It's not as simple as going long/short any more. Actually, I'm starting to appreciate the Camry again- reading through the Lexus guide will take time.
If it's rotation, why not short FXP/buy FAZ? Thinking about it.
Re: Monday Morning Tid Bits
Bev- I think Les mentioned max pain for the SPYders is 90. Is that a concern?
SPNG
bought back in today at .1068. The RSI 7 is down quite a bit, slow/fast stochastics say oversold. They just bought out their supplier that holds the patents on their products in an all cash deal. Revenues continue to grow. If it's not a scam, it's very undervalued. HAHA.
Gold miners showing some sickly behavior
no buyers in sight at lower and lower levels.
Re: Monday Morning Tid Bits
2nd
I'm not a max pain follower. Too many disappoinments for me.
But this is going to be a crazy week.
With it being OPEX week + several turn dates [Bradley. phi mate, etc] around the 15th-22nd. Buckle up.
HNU.to bidding at $USD 3.39
No positions right now.
Cara 100 Update (Final)
JNJ - 2010 estimates raised at UBS because of moderating currency rates. Buy rating and $62 price target.
gold!!
oh no gold is going down!!
but i thought china was buying gold!!
and everyone is getting out of the US dollar.
if the US dollar can hold up this well in the face of all these alleged people
getting out of the dollar, just imagine how well it will do when the media finally wakes up to the reality that the other G20 nations are printing money, funding stimulus plans and facing corruption and decay just like america!!!!
wake up gang.
gold will eventually go up, but not because just the US dollar goes down, and not becuase the world is sick of dollars. these are propaganda statments released by governments to appease the voting public into thinking the problems affecting america arent their fault and wont come home to roost in their country... corruption and mis-management are human traits, so if the US overspent and is about to amp the printing press, odds are other states are doing the same to keep pace.
for me the cue will be if and when gold starts moving up in virtually all major currencies, regardless of what oil is doing, if we start to see gold advance in the face of all other factors it will be the sign that the competitive devaluation happening in ALL currencies is starting to show signs of cracking. how much government debt can other central banks buy from eachother until it gets called what it really is: fiscal cannibalism. people looking to bond sales data are getting skewed info, so long as other states keep going to eachothers parties and buying the debt, they will hold down the fort.
gold is still the canary in the coal mine, but canaries are fragile and can get stepped on by miners easily. only when they realize the air might be running out will they rush for the elevator....
right now, the canary is getting stepped on.
tiny bio's...
I am not sure of exact timeframe, but ASTM should be giving updates in the next 2 weeks.... Their platform is good, but stock has been held down for so very long... I bought CYTR at $ .36 awhile back.. wish to hell I had held longer... (they (cytr) got a bad rap a while back, but at one time had been deemed a challenge to ISIS)..... guess we will see, but one thing a lot of people don't realize, is that ASTM can easily convert to full embryonic scale processing if they so choose... (this is just a throw-out, but as an aside, CYTR is now at $ 1.20 ( a 500% move in 4 months ).... should have held...
Ultras
Alright, I'm out for now. Sold SKF permkt (GS got my attention), held QID as it didn't react very negatively and I was still up. All gone for now.
Stopped out of kryptonite (UNG)premkt. Cost me a commission.
This should give you the all clear to go long....
I'm going to go do something that makes me more $, my x-ray vision isn't working that good today.
ERX @ 22.44
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100% Long
I moved my long term trading account into the 100% long position at the end of last week. I got the 10% correction I was expecting and am no longer as fearful of a significant downdraft in the markets...
Re: ERX @ 22.44/ Off @ 22.84
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Re: Ilyushin
Flew a Yak 40 from Moscow to Donyetsk a few years ago. You carried on your own luggage and boarded on a ramp in the rear. The seats were wicker. You could sip your own carry on cognac and buy a fried chicken basket for 2 bucks. Contrast that with my AA flight from Aspen to DFW yesterday (miserable cattle car MD 80) and the Yak sorok was like a little bit of heaven. Il 62 is a good plane when the motors work...udacha!
Re: ERX @ 22.44/ Off @ 22.84
Nice. Thought about it but couldn't pull the trigger. My counter nature is telling me just to sit tight. To many people expect a big sell off for it to actually happen...just too "easy"?
Re: 100% Long
tof- Man, that's ultimate counter-trend wrestling. I would have had a hard time sleeping last night.
Re: 100% Long
Wow....thats putting your money where your mouth is. Big stones.
Sold my big (by my standards) SDS position Friday at 60.84. Almost bought back at open today, but I think I may sit tight a bit here too.
Re: 100% Long
HA! I'll still go short if we get to 930 or so.
The charts are still rolling over.
I hate earnings week...too iffy.
Re: Monday Morning Tid Bits
RE:>Bev- I think Les mentioned max pain for the SPYders is 90. Is that a concern?
Wasn't me 2nd, but it remains the case that maxpain for SPY is 90
Re: 100% Long
The Put trade looks really crowded, careful out there.
Bill, enjoy your well deserved time off and remember, plenty of SPF 50!
Re: 100% Long
TOF- Gutsy move, man. GL
Re: 100% Long
Craig - Today's price action strengthens my belief that we should be in this market on the long side. Going into last night the overseas markets rolled over and our futures were down nicely. The market is up big right now. I think people are still too negative/hesitant about this market.
Re: 100% Long
Thanks. Good luck to you too. I could be wrong but I'm willing to be patient on this and if we're down another 10% then I will have to re-assess.
Re: 100% Long
SPX 26 week EMA is flat which is better than downtrending. The SPY triple RSI screen is 26,46, and 39.
Except for some capitulation plays, I can't get excited about going long or short.
BND is giving a Triple RSI sell alert.
Re: 100% Long
tof- Good call. Still in the Camry (100% cash) and pulling over to let you pass ;)
Guaranteed Returns?
Rather than waste our time trying to trade these markets, why aren't we all just shorting both FAS and FAZ? The erosion factor is incredible and pretty much guarantees big returns...or so it seems.
Re: 100% Long
That's cool TOF - putting your money on the line like that. I was wondering if we'd bounce down the 200dma. With earnings week for some important stocks it may work out like that, at least for this next week or three
http://tinyurl.com/km2mql
SPX cleared its 5dma. Next stop. 10dma
SRS
SRS: http://tinyurl.com/ndld92
IYR: http://tinyurl.com/ndxt88
FAZ @ 50.30/ QID @ 33.62
too far too fast...IMO...
Re: FAZ @ 50.30/ QID @ 33.62/ Off 50.05/33.48
Not going to try fighting this.
AUY
Got long this morning a little earlier.
Now it SEEMS to be making the so-called "good A-up through the pivot".
Re: FAZ @ 50.30/ QID @ 33.62
2nd - I really think we should be shorting both FAZ and FAS. It seems like it will continue to work.
Ameritrade has both available to short...
Stopped for directions...
Went back to my original S&P Road Map. Looks like you could say we got 2 left shoulders, a head and the 1st of 2 right shoulders printed so far. So if there is a 2nd right shoulder to be made, it could top out around the 50 MA area, which would be around 910. This could all take place around those "turn dates" being talked about lately.
http://tinyurl.com/ns5gmj
S&P
I see a bearish wedge on the S&P 500 forming. Looks like we might be dropping some soon.
Re: Stopped for directions...
What's your source for Bradley? TIA
Your charts are always interesting and you are one smart cookie.
Natural Gas
Looks like it is testing the long term uptrend line.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$NATGAS&p=M&yr=16&mn=0&dy=0&id=p02874610140&a=158183243
Interesting Article
Creates as many questions as it answers.
http://www.technologyinvestor.com/
P.S. Thanks to Pat Veech for his CTA trader notes and checklist.
oversold
On the daily charts, I see gold & miners as well as oil & energy stocks really oversold right now. Bullish RSI divergences are all over the place. I also see the canadian dollar bottoming out, and the yen looking overbought. It just seems to me we should be set up for a PM & energy rebound right now.
Re: Stopped for directions...
Telestar... I have never investigated the success / failure ratio of the Bradley Turn Dates, so I don't put much faith in them. If you pull up the link below you will see why. But I have noticed a good many traders who do watch for the dates, so that is why I mentioned it.
2009 Bradley Turn Dates
January 20-21
Feburary 8-9
June 3
June 26
July 14-15
September 14-15
October 22-23
November 9
http://forbestadvice.com/Money/Gurus/DonaldBradley...
Re: Stopped for directions...
Re Bradley: I agree it can hurt you as much as it can help. The chart you show by Manfred is free. He has one for subscribers that he tweaks.
Just curious, thanks. IMO, better following price and being aware of the above.
Re: oversold
Dave- Would you say technology is overbought?
Re: Stopped for directions...
Telestar3d
Agree!
Re: oversold
Tech overbought? Not with RSI of 45. I'm not buying any, just watching. Too bad, it did well this morning.
I'm thinking more fraudulent bank earnings led by our friends at Goldman might give us a brief summer rally.
I've been stopped out of my few individual shorts remaining, and the stuff I bought has kept going up so I'm just going with what's working.
Nice ascending wedge on USO. Got one QM contract just in case.
Re: Stopped for directions.../ The Twiggs map
http://www.incrediblecharts.com/tradingdiary/tradi...
Re: oversold
At what technology would you be looking?
gold going up?
It's been so long since gold went up, I've forgotten what it feels like. :)
AUY
Still in it to win it. AUY made that awesome little cup-shape on the 5 min, similar to the one GSS made on the dailies back in about 2006.
Re: FAZ @ 50.30/ QID @ 33.62
Re: "I really think we should be shorting both FAZ and FAS. It seems like it will continue to work. Ameritrade has both available to short..."
I did this last week through Interactive Brokers a day or two after the reverse split. Shorted equal dollar amounts of each. As of a few minutes ago, the trade looks like this:
Unrealized profit(loss)
FAS (560.30)
FAZ 599.50
As David commented main risk is that e.g. FAZ takes off, the rest of your issues decline, FAS doesn't keep up and you get a margin call...
Re: Stopped for directions...
777 or 811 would be a strong confirmation for me.
Re: Monday Morning Tid Bits
Looks like we are getting our big move from the small change in
Friday's McClellan Oscillator.
AUY
:)
still in
gold thru 920
I'm guessing that last spike in gold was a large number of shorts getting stopped out at around 920.
Re: FAZ @ 50.30/ QID @ 33.62
hmm...that is interesting...never thought of that. how about buying deep in the money puts on both? no margin risk there...
Gann
You know, I don't think Gann would be fazed by this market. But using what (little) I know of Gann, I can't get my head around the price action. Day trading seems to be the only thing working right now.
Re: Gann
2nd
Keep in mind this is OPEX week.... that in itself should be a warning. Remember what I posted initially today..
"And the week after options expirations weeks tends to be negative anyway, and that is so also of the week after July expirations, which have been down 7 of the last 11 years."
I am planning for next week. Looking for the possible 2nd right shoulder to be put in by Friday. As long as we don't pass the June 11th highs I am still leaning short.
Re: Gann
2nd-
You seem a bit obsessed with this new trend trading thought of yours. Stick with what works for you. I'd say that is day trading. Cant argue with an 87% return.
This doesn't seem Bullish to me!
Snagged this chart from molecool. To me it is very telling, that this tape can easily be push upwards.
Last Bear Bottom
Looking at the bottom from late 2002 to early 2003: End of the bear had a head and shoulders also. After the head and shoulders broke, H&S measurement dictated target as opposed to fibonacci or gann. Interestingly the numbers are almost exactly the same. We may get to see, in real time, if history repeats.
AUY
Taking profits, not that it doesnt look good, merely that my sister's here visiting and we're going to the beach.
Bona Fortuna!
Re: Gann
Pz- You have a point. I'm going to drive the Camry over to Gann's Body Shop and pick up the dented Lexus. Probably won't take it for a spin until tomorrow, though.
FAZ 48.97? Looking back, today's 'tell' was post #36770
If Meredith Whitney upgrades GS to Buy, the writing is(was) on the wall.
caveat emptor on the 5 min chart
http://tinyurl.com/nk3bny
Re: AUY
Nice one, shark. I thought about SLW this morning @ 7.12.
Re: Gann
2nd - "I'm going to drive the Camry over to Gann's Body Shop and pick up the dented Lexus."
Nice move, this way you won't have to worry about that double chin above the neckline.
Looks like Asia's loss is our gain...
Tuesday: GS before the open, INTC after the close
Two reasons to be driving only during market hours, IMO.
Re: Gann
CP- That's the problem with you engineers, man- everything refers back to chart formations. I still have some high-grade Euro-rolled on the table, if you want to think outside the chart ;)
Re: Gann
You say you need more resolution · Well you know · We all want to change the world.... Talk about inflation, that stuff used to be $100/oz now over $150....
Re: FAZ @ 50.30/ QID @ 33.62
Never seems to be a problem to borrow the financials. That should tell you it is not as good a short as the commodity juiced ones with the contango. I think it is safe to surmise that HB&B are shorting the good ones.
Re: GS upgrade
Meredith Whitney expects the unemployment rate to rise to 13 percent.
http://tinyurl.com/nte4vc
Re: Gann and Engineers
Sounds like you're in denial.
sold some SRS puts
Many smart people have noted that the commercial real estate is "the next shoe to drop." At the same time, SRS is near its all time low. This means that the possible problems for commercial real estate are not priced in yet (at least not fully). So I just sold 2 SRS August $21 puts for $2.1 each. Next time SKF rises to near $50, I'll sell 1/3 of my SKF shares and will instead sell puts for the same amount, so that instead of me worrying about the need to trade SKF so as to compensate for its volatility decay, the time decay in my short options would be doing this automatically for me.
Have we reached the bottom of this correction and will the stocks start moving up now? I don't think so. USO is still falling on fears of a weak economy. As you may recall from last weeks WIR, Bill mentioned that the "lights out" scenario is the one where both oil and gold will take a plunge. Something like that has already happened, and while the light did not go out fully yet, the falling oil today is an indicator that today's bank rally today might be just a blip on the radar.
Re: Gann and Engineers
We all see what we want to see ;)
Re: Gann and Engineers
2nd
for tomorrow's headline: Meredith Whitney Advisory Group , LLC acquired by GS for 20M in stock
sound good to me
lost little in OEX put did good on SRS/EEV and FXP. brought SDS at 57.26
Re: Gann and Engineers
Tell ya what I see is a double chin drooping over Uncle Sam's neckline there. It just ain't a pretty picture no matter how ya look at it... ;))
financials +6.4% today
Now that's an amazing move. Could we have predicted it from the Meredith Whitney boost for Goldman Sachs? I think so. Did I buy any FAS? No, unfortunately I did not.
Here's Bill's whipsaw, a day late. I want to see a little more RSI in the S&P before I reload those SPY puts.
Re: Gann and Engineers
Chickenpookie
Look at positive, GS goose it earning by stealing from tax payer. And market went up. They (GS) did pay back big time to tax payer. Everyone’s 401k balance went up big today?
It must be fun running the black box!
Wouldn't be a kick in the butt to create your own reality. To the wife at breakfast. "S+p Will be 900 today". With the boys over Martinis. "Tomorrow we will make it 880". By Friday 950. August 1 back to 875. Great job if you can get it.
Bob
Tempted to throw a little FAZ/QID in the back seat of the Lexus
But I'll stick with the Camry for now. Minor gain on a 7-minute trade in ERX, minor losses on 7-minute trades in FAZ/QID. That was it for today.
Re: Gann and Engineers
vinod - Here's a happy face:
U.S. Mint Suspends Gold Coin Sales Again
Funny how unprecedented demand does not equal an unprecedented gold price rise...
Production of United States Mint American Eagle Gold Proof and Uncirculated Coins has been temporarily suspended because of unprecedented demand for American Eagle Gold Bullion Coins. Currently, all available 22-karat gold blanks are being allocated to the American Eagle Gold Bullion Coin Program, as the United States Mint is required by Public Law 99-185 to produce these coins “in quantities sufficient to meet public demand . . . .”
The United States Mint will resume the American Eagle Gold Proof and Uncirculated Coin Programs once sufficient inventories of gold bullion blanks can be acquired to meet market demand for all three American Eagle Gold Coin products. Additionally, as a result of the recent numismatic product portfolio analysis, fractional sizes of American Eagle Gold Uncirculated Coins will no longer be produced.
http://tinyurl.com/ncj9b7
Re: AUY
Thanks. Turns out it was good for a lot more than I sold it for.....Expensive trip to the beach:)
Re: U.S. Mint Suspends Gold Coin Sales Again
The coin blanks must be coming from "deep" storage. It takes time to mine the stuff.
Update on paired short trade FAS/FAZ
Wow big moves in opposite directions. P/L now stands at $895 in FAZ and ($822.80) in FAS for a net of $73. It appears another way to lose on this trade is consistent big moves in one side. As FAS was cheaper when I opened the trade, I had to buy 40% more shares to make the dollar values equal. Now that FAS has made this big move, any further up moves way overshadow the profit in the FAZ short, since the daily percentage change in FAS will apply to a higher dollar total and a bigger number. Not comfortable with this and will probably close the trade tomorrow...
KC
SKF trajectory for tomorrow
SKF has been slowly moving up over the past 2 weeks. If today was a medium-term trend change for the financials (meaning if they are destined to move higher for a few weeks), then how will SKF most likely look tomorrow? I would say tomorrow should look very similar to today under these assumptions. That is, SKF will most likely gap down (since those who were late to the party today will try to buy at the open) and then keep falling throughout the day. SKF rising above $44 is unlikely under this scenario. Therefore, I have just placed a buy stop limit order on SKF with stop at $44 and limit at $44.10. If SKF rises above $44 tomorrow, then not everything is so rosy with the financials and the medium-term trend down has not changed.
India's First Wal-Mart Draws Excitement
http://tinyurl.com/m2fv47
GS vs JPM at the close
So I noticed a distinct difference in how these two closed. GS apparently had some pretty serious distribution going into the close at about 149.50. The volume rose like in the rest of the financials, but it alone did not have any price movement upwards.
JPM on the other hand, spiked up hard on high volume into the close.
Does that tell us something about GS earnings tomorrow? Does it say anything about how the financials overall will do tomorrow? I am not sure, but its an interesting divergence.
WAR SPENDING
ALOHA !!
Even though Obama ran on the platform of bringing troops home and "de-militarizing" the Middle East I have to state otherwise in terms of "real spending". I have researched the US TREASURY DAILY STATEMENTS from 2003 and 2009.
If you recall in 2003 George Bush and Dick Cheney invaded and occupied Iraq. The "Shock and Awe" began on March 20, 2003. By the end of Q3 for FY 2003 Bush, at the height of war, spent $150BIL USD. So far for FY 2009 Obama has spent over $284BIL USD as of June 30, 2009, end of Q3.
According to the US TREASURY numbers OBAMA wins the Defense spending contest, not George Bush. Did Obama lie just to be President?
So what is the LMT share price? What about GD? In terms of EPS and P/E and DIV, GD looks better than GS does with a lot less dilution, but GS has double the net profit and operating margins of GD. What is it that GS manufactures again? A fraudulent paper shuffler at $149! Will the US Congress ever call the GS management to Capital Hill and be rebuked for their massive profits like XOM? XOM earns profits, with GS 'earnings" take on a whole new meaning under the criminal law code. Hummmmm??? What a country!
ALL OUR BEST THINKING GOT US HERE ...
HANKY 2007
ALOHA !!
It is important to keep in perspective what the gurus of the markets were saying prior to the collapse. Either they out and out lied to help out the GS short position or they're completely inept ... Not much in between on this issue!
This is what Hank Paulson Said about the global economy in 2007 ...
"This is far and away the strongest global economy I've seen in my business lifetime."
-Hank Paulson, July 12, 2007
I think he called the TOP that day!
Hank should do a duet with Jim Cramer on Bear Stearns!
This is a link to that article. Take a look at some of the stats on the sidebar from those days!
LINK: http://tinyurl.com/3445km
(Link from the Cunning Realist, 07/13/2009)
Okay ... Mahalo!
Paulson/Cramer Duet
"Hank should do a duet with Jim Cramer on Bear Stearns"
kaimu- Here's my suggestion:
"Should Have Never Let (Bear) Go"
[Neil Sedaka]
(Hank) When you walk into a room,
Your beauty steals my breath away.
When you look into my eyes,
I find it hard to find the words to say.
Want to run away and hide,
I've just got to let you know.
(Cameo appearance by Ben) Feel so tangled up inside,
I should have never let you go.
(Jim) Anyone can make mistakes,
And we both have made our share (Jim-> soaring guitar riff to audience applause),
But a life without your love,
Is a life too hard to Bear (Stearns logo flashes briefly in the background)
I don't care who's right or wrong (Tim, Alan, Robert chime in),
Only know I love you so.
Why did I have to write this song?
I should have never let you go.
(Both)Why?
In all the wide, wide world,
Have I run into you here,
Wish I could disappear.
I'll never understand,
Why I even give a damn (Tim, Alan, Robert chime in)
(Hank) When you walk into a room,
You know I stand on shaky ground.
I've built so many walls around me,
Now the walls are tumbling down.
You're the kind I can't forget,
Let the tears begin to flow.
I have only one regret,
I should have never let you go.
(Both) Should have never let you go,
Should have never let you go,
Should have never let you go.
Should have never let ......you go (lights fade)
Re: WAR SPENDING
kaimu
Actually we’ve wasted our military in such a fashion in Afghanistan and Iraq, fighting against an anonymous enemy of millions of faces, not one of them in an identifying uniform, while we are oh so identifiable...It is not good to Bringing them back to America that doesn't resemble anything like the country they left, is a recipe for disaster. If I was the elite I'd keep them far away from home, if things go south over it won't be pleasant for the elite at all.
Re: WAR SPENDING
"According to the US TREASURY numbers OBAMA wins the Defense spending contest, not George Bush. Did Obama lie just to be President?"
When it's working for you why change strategy?
Re: WAR SPENDING
FDR sent MacArthur to deal with the WWI bonus marchers. If these guys ever march on Washington they will not be put down by a few National Guard troops and who could blame them?
Here we go again
Remember catalyst for March Rally? V Pandit's off the cuff remark about Citi, as I recall? Now we have GS huge paper shuffle earnings from hypertrading algo-rhythms, and a nice big float to work with courtesy of the Fed and US treasury. This kicks off another rally? The market goes up tomorrow on the news. Don't blame Whitney. Facts are facts. She said nothing of the morality or legality of it.
Re: Paulson/Cramer Duet
ALOHA !!
Very funny 2nd ... I especially like the Bear Stearns logo in lights! So Ben plays guitar and sings also? Hummmm ... there's HOPE for him after all!
I am always amazed at how these "venerable" institutions crashed and burned so fast once they were "allowed" to fail! Both Bear Stearns founded in 1923 and Lehman was founded in 1850 ... All combined a total of 245 years in business and how long did it take them to fall once the derivatives got hold of them? Why is they're Board and management aren't in criminal court? They're probably all out at the Hamptons with Michael Milken and the gang! Then where is that dried old plumhead the AIG genius GREENBERG? Come to think of it where is that "has-been" George Bush puttin' his spurs these days? Imagine all the BILLIONS his loyal owners will plow into his Presidential Library???? Hank alone ought to come up with the funds!
I am constantly amazed at how far complete failures rise in America! Heck, some of them even make it to President!
10-4 ...
Re: Here we go again
No one's blaming Whitney. She's calling it as she sees it. It's up to us to trade the call accordingly. Tuesday should be an interesting day.
Re: Here we go again
ALOHA !!
No, I think that was a CITI internal office memo, that somehow made it onto the WSJ and the NYSE! Who would have thought a "memo" had so much power!
QSFT- Buying on weakness
Voulme +1000%, block trades 280/1...looking into this one. Anyone follow it?
http://tinyurl.com/2detgr
Re: Here we go again
2nd
No one mention that Meredith Whitney was going to be on CNBC and it may be a market moving event. She was there just before important earning from GS
Re: Here we go again
"No, I think that was a CITI internal office memo, that somehow made it onto the WSJ"
The memo kick-started the rally (3/10), that same day Barney Franks started talking about reinstating the uptick rule and Bernanke called for new regulatory authority and revision of the mark 2 market rule.
Wheat export banned by India
http://tiny.cc/c0tax
Re: Here we go again
Whitney's estimates is for Goldman earnings per share of $4.65 for the quarter, compared to the average estimate of $3.48.
Will be very interesting to see what the numbers actually are.
I also show news that say U.S. mulling mortgage aid for unemployed. It looks like a secret subsidy for the banks
Banks not surviving is unthinkable because of stress tests they did
Re: Paulson/Cramer Duet
2nd ... You are a musical genius. I can tell without even hearing a note.
Kaimu ...You are a fountain of information, not to mention the inspiration for 2nd's future You Tube video, as above.
Re: Here we go again
Vinod- "I also show news that say U.S. mulling mortgage aid for unemployed." OK, so I was wrong. I thought it was a good idea to pass a "real" stimulus package. There is nothing wrong with tossing a floaty to a drowning victim. Seems like we are getting the Star Princess floating around picking up passengers for that life long cruse Vad talked about.
If they can swing buy Goat Rock beach about 12:00 this Sat. and pick me up, I'll gladly swim out to the ship.
MUSIC TOUR 1967
ALOHA !!
Here is a trivia question for you 2nd ...
Who did Jimi Hendrix open for on their 1967 North American Tour(tour dates 7/8 to 7/16/67)?
common thread
Every morning in school growing up in the deep south, we had to stand every morning with our hand over our heart and recite the pledge of allegiance to the flag. One nation under God.
Today at 8 am, I was plotting my gamble on scottrade. I figure that GS is setting up another fleece the sheep for this week. So, I placed my bet financials. Yes, I loaded up on CNB early with a stop in place. Am I betting on a real company or system, no. I made a trade. Just a move.
The USA is over. this is the final days and everyone is sucking it dry. So sad but I think it is too late to turn this around...
what do we have in common? all of the members here are ethical and care about what is really happening to our system.
Send me more music, my soul is hurting
vb
Re: Here we go again
ALOHA !!
Paying house payments for the unemployed? Man, the US TAXPAYERS have some gigantic, broad shoulders!
These guys have totally uprooted anything remotely resembling "contract law"! They have shredded the US Constitution for their own enjoyment and they are on a fast track to shred the markets.
As I have said in the past I believe the AMERICAN DREAM was nothing more than a con job to get votes! Over the many decades every administration "promises" more and more so that they can get more votes. This AMNESTY that is in the works is yet another example of "buying votes". These guys in the two-party aristocracy will pimp their Mothers if it would get them a vote! Where's leadership with any integrity?
I guess that is what I'd call the ultimate "generational trade" when the monetary system collapses.
IT IS WHAT IT IS ...
Re: common thread
VB- Mine too...even a wonderful picture of 2 beautiful beings can't seem to help. Thanks!
Re: common thread
hey mark,
keep the faith.
vb
Re: common thread
VB- Just kinda feel like the piano player right now.... http://tinyurl.com/5qm84l
But I'm good. Working on a big project bid and under a lot of stress. Thanks, my friend. ung, ung, ung......
Re: MUSIC TOUR 1967
Probably the Monkees, if I remember correctly.
vanillabean - Don't worry, this time next year the economy will be rocking!!! Well, it'll be better anyway... These guys have been on the money with their forecasts:
http://uclaforecast.com/contents/archive/2009/medi...
BTW, yesterday one of my female ducks hatched out some baby ducklings and today a few more. Actually, there are two female ducks on this nest. Ha!!!
Re: common thread
mark and chickie poo,
we gotta stick together. this is like group therapy.
xx000
vb
THE GIST
ALOHA !!
Let me get the gist here ... Because today the US TREASURY almost another 41BIL USD was paid out in TARP funds and last week another $22BIL USD was paid out to US Banks and companies. So last month we got a rally in the financials where ten banks claim they never needed TARP and were forced to take the funds. So how is it they are able to repay the TARP? They jump start the rally by the CITI memo and the FASB accounting changes so that they are now profitable so once their share price gets high enough then they dilute the hell out of their companies and sell shares so they can pay off their TARP liabilities in order to get back to the all important "bonuses"! Can't they make money the old fashioned way ... earning it? They have to shuffles millions of their own shares to, as far as I can see, brain-dead investo-trons who have convinced the "herd" that the pain is over!
Then Meredith comes on and talks about GS ... In the same breath she says unemployment will be 13%(if you double it that's the real number). By the way, Meredith, the formula we used to use to measure unemployment back in 1994 already calculates out to 21% unemployment, so whats your point? If unemployment keeps rising and I HAVE THE FACTS on the US TAX REVENUES and they are off a cliff grim, then when will all these US Banks ever get out from under their BAD DEBT loads? None of what she says adds up! Like I said back when the FASB rules were changed ... Obama is essentially announcing that, "ALL THE RED CARDS ARE NOW WILD"!
The commercial real estate is in the tank, so with unemployment rising who will be paying mortgage payments? Is this why the US government now wants to pay mortgage payments for the unemployed, just so they can keep their BANK OWNERS alive and well while the rest of us go down the toilet? Hey if Obama paid my mortgage I'd vote for him also! Problem is I am TOO RESPONSIBLE and I do not have a mortgage ... Essentially the responsible people in this World are forced to take care of the irresponsible ones. That only goes so far mates ... until we start running out of "responsible" and "solvent" people! THEN WHAT?
Look Obama, just get a sudden streak of honesty, and send us all a check for $50,000USD and be done with it! YEAH ... I'll pay the tax on it!
GOVERNMENT IS ESSENTIALLY THE NEGATION OF LIBERTY"- Ludwig Von Mises
For traders out there, I would add the word "financial" between "of" and "Liberty" ...
John Mauldin - Deflation, not Inflation is the issue
http://www.investorsinsight.com/blogs/john_mauldin...
Intro:
As Niels Jensen pointed out last week, the most important question that an investor can ask is whether we are in for deflation or inflation. And this week we read a well reasoned piece on deflation. This is one of the more important essays I have sent out. You need to set aside some time to absorb this one.
Van Hoisington and Dr. Lacy Hunt give us a few thoughts on why they think it is deflation that will ultimately be the problem and not inflation we are dealing with today. This week's letter requires you to think, but it will be worth the effort.
And let me quote a few sentences in the middle of this letter about taxes which you need to think about.
"Thus Barro and Perotti are saying that each $1 increase in government spending reduces private spending by about $1, with no net benefit to GDP. All that is left is a higher level of government debt creating slower economic growth."
"The most extensive research on tax multipliers is found in a paper written at the University of California Berkeley entitled The Macroeconomic Effects of Tax Changes: Estimates Based on a new Measure of Fiscal Shocks, by Christina D. and David H. Romer (March 2007). (Christina Romer now chairs the president's Council of Economic Advisors). This study found that the tax multiplier is 3, meaning that each dollar rise in taxes will reduce private spending by $3."
Now, if you put all of the various inputs together, Hoisington and Hunt show that theory suggests we will soon be dealing with deflation. It's counter-intuitive to what we hear today, which is why the Bank for International Settlements used the stagflation word in a recent report. The transition that is coming will not be comfortable....
Re: MUSIC TOUR 1967
ALOHA !!
Come on CP ... you can't remember back that far ... You Googled it didn't you?
Man, I think I'd have to be on drugs to open for the Monkees! Maybe Davey sang a duet with Jimi on Purple Haze ... HA!! I guess Hendrix needed some cash ... What must the "bubble gummers" thought when Hendrix started up? HA!! Mommy-y-y-y ... I want my Mommy-y-y-y ...
Is there a You Tube clip on that?
Re: common thread
I used to have a "Mallard" (actually a domesticated Mallard known as a Rouen looks, waddles and quacks like a Mallard) drake that slept on the roost with his favorite chicken. He would climb up the ladder where I had made him a platform next to where the chickens slept.
His name was C.N. Quackers (C=Cheese, N=Nabisco)
Here's another article to cheer you up:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/148339-the-inflati...
Re: John Mauldin - Deflation, not Inflation is the issue
ALOHA !!
Les posted - "The most extensive research on tax multipliers is found in a paper written at the University of California Berkeley entitled The Macroeconomic Effects of Tax Changes: Estimates Based on a new Measure of Fiscal Shocks, by Christina D. and David H. Romer (March 2007). (Christina Romer now chairs the president's Council of Economic Advisors). This study found that the tax multiplier is 3, meaning that each dollar rise in taxes will reduce private spending by $3."
What a load of crap!!! Haven't I shown that for each US tax dollar the government receives they spend $5? So, $5 - $3 = $2 increase in spending! The US government more than offsets what its citizens don't want to spend! Don't take my word for it, go look it up at the US TREASURY DAILY STATEMENT ... So the ROMERS make no allowance for government spending ... Hummmmm???
This woman and her husband need more medication ... they are still conscious!
Re: MUSIC TOUR 1967
kaimu - Ahhh ya got me, all I really remember is how lame the Monkees were!!!! Here's what I found... sounds kind of synergistic in a deluded kind of way?
"What were they thinking? Answer: The Monkees wanted respect, and Hendrix wanted publicity. Despite the notoriety from his guitar-burning appearance at the Monterey Pop Festival the month before, Hendrix was better known in England than in the United States, and was far less popular than the Monkees, who had been created for a television sitcom and whose fans consisted mostly of prepubescent girls.
According to an account of the incident in "Oops," a new chronicle of modern fiascoes by Martin J. Smith and Patrick J. Kiger, Hendrix's temper boiled over at Forest Hills. The problem wasn't the performers, who got along pretty well. It was the Monkees' fans, who had little interest in the scary psychedelic dude who preceded their idols. Hendrix's riffs were drowned out by screams of "We want Davy!" (Davy Jones was a Monkee.) Finally, Hendrix gestured obscenely, with words to match, and stomped offstage.
A publicist had a master stroke, putting out the fictional story that opposition from the Daughters of the American Revolution had forced Hendrix off the tour. It worked. His next tour, before appreciative audiences, was a success, and within a year, he was a superstar."
Definitely fun for everyone...
Re: THE GIST
kaimu - What do you think will happen when all those US dollars the Chinese have been hording make it back to the US???? Oh wait, I guess maybe they're already here in the form of government debt which cannot be covered due to diminishing IRS receipts! Maybe China doesn't have any extra dollars to lend to the beggars unless they print Yuan to buy them with. Wouldn't that tend to devalue the yuan further, leaving more downside for the $USD?
This entire process sounds inflationary to me, meanwhile the supply side is shutting down, which can also be considered inflationary.
OT Mayer and Clapton
John Mayer, wait until tommorrow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH-8PGAA-D4
Mayer and Clapton, Crossroads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh4n1bZi4d8&feature...
preparing to buy more SRS
Placing a small buy limit order on SRS at $19.50 and another one at $20. I think the market might have a hump shape tomorrow and I want to try to catch that hump to in case it happens while I am sleeping. :) Also, changing my buy stop limit order from SKF to SRS, with stop at $22 and limit at $22.1. I have enough of SKF in my portfolio already and now I want to get some SRS.
Re: MUSIC TOUR 1967/ Hendrix 1969/70
kaimu- I was at an outdoor concert that included Hendrix. Can't recall if it was 1969 or 1970 (moved away from the Bay Area in late August '70). Pretty sure it was summertime, it took us longer than 30 minutes from the high school to get there (I wasn't quite old enough to drive, and I think we went with someone's older brother), and the seats were wooden folding chairs. I know we arrived late. I remember seeing Hendrix, but can't recall what he played. Can't recall any of the other bands. When Hendrix came on, everyone stood on the chairs. The three of us also left early- our parents probably wanted us home by a certain time. That was a sight- three skinny long-haired kids walking OUT on Hendrix amidst a sea of people standing on chairs. Also can't recall if the reason I can't recall much was all the sharing going down.
Ron Paul's bill to audit the Fed is blocked
http://tinyurl.com/mal9bo
An amendment based on Congressman Ron Paul’s House bill to audit the Federal Reserves was blocked by the Senate this week on procedural grounds.
Speaking on the Senate floor, Republican Senator Jim DeMint and supporter of an audit said, "allowing the Fed to operate our nation's monetary system in almost complete secrecy leads to abuse, inflation and a lower quality of life."
Good interview, not good news.
Charles Ortel, managing director with Newport Value Partners, an independent research firm, agrees. "Transparency is the key to any market," he says, noting the Fed doesn't mark-to-market its assets, much of it now consisting of the worst toxic debt Wall Street had to offer.
In truth, the Fed doesn't work in complete secrecy - they do release a weekly update which details the size and type of assets on its balance sheet. According to the latest report, the Fed’s balance sheet shrunk to $1.989 trillion, falling below $2 trillion for the first time since March.
And Bernanke backers are inclined to say, give the Fed a break. Those supporters including, Warren Buffett, claim the Fed’s action saved the U.S. from an even greater economic catastrophe.
But Ortel isn’t buying it: "We are well into a major crisis of confidence... those with major league exposure to the dollar and U.S. companies are quietly reducing that exposure," he claims.
If one looks at recent U.S. Treasury auctions, appetite for U.S. debt remains relatively strong. But Ortel says the smart money has little confidence in the future of the U.S. and is instead buying gold and other hard assets.
Community Chat
I just posted the new Community Chat, so feel free to head over there.
Re: John Mauldin - Deflation, not Inflation is the issue
Les,
Van Hoisington's fund (WHOSX) has been my major source of gains since last Oct. I don't recall exactly how I stumbled onto his quarterly comments, but I have found him very convincing along with A. Gary Shilling re deflation.
At one point I was 40% into his fund and have been adding or subtracting throughout the year as the 10-yr floats between 3 and 4%. I've begun an adding-only mode within the past month.
Re: John Mauldin - Deflation, not Inflation is the issue
G'day Kaimu, nice to hear your cheery countenance.
Mauldin was probably referring to the following:
Interestingly, the term "federal stimulus spending" is an oxymoron. Many assume that the act of sending checks from the federal government sector to the private sector helps the economy through so-called spending multipliers. Multipliers take into consideration the second, third, fourth, etc. round effects from an initial change.
Thus, multipliers capture the unintended consequences of policy actions. Although the initial spending objectives may be well intended, the ultimate outcome becomes convoluted. Over the past several years, multipliers have been intensively examined by leading economic scholars. Robert Barro of Harvard University calculates in Macroeconomics a Modern Approach (Thomson/Southwestern, 2008, p. 307) that the government expenditure multiplier from 1955 to 2006 was negative .01, not statistically different from 0.
The highly respected Italian econometrician Roberto Perotti of Universita' Bocconi and the Centre for Capital Economic Policy Research has also done extensive work on this subject while visiting the fiscal policy division of the ECB. In October 2004, in his Estimating the Effects of Fiscal Policy in OECD Countries, Perotti calculates that the U.S. expenditure multiplier is also close to 0. Thus Barro and Perotti are saying that each $1 increase in government spending reduces private spending by about $1, with no net benefit to GDP.
All that is left is a higher level of government debt creating slower economic growth. There may be intermittent periods when government spending will lift the economy, but offsetting episodes will follow. The best available empirical research suggests that the current federal policy of expanding spending will retard, not improve, the performance of business conditions. In addition to spending multipliers, however, there are also tax multipliers. END
ditto taxes I assume, given the lack of followthrough on the relevant paragraph. But take it up with Mauldin mate if you don't agree.
Admittedly, X number of additional dollars in government spending didn't do squat for Japan as we now know. Perhaps the couple are on to something and government spending isn't used as productively as the private realm
cheers
Re: John Mauldin - Deflation, not Inflation is the issue
ALOHA !!
Cheery? I'm always cheery mate!
Look, countenance has nothing to do with it. If I read something based on half logic I will call it like I see it!
This crisis is based in money not the economy ... the economy is a symptom!
One of the issues is that eventually it does not matter how much DEBT the government throws onto the fire there will be zero or negative growth, but that is just the first Chapter as these guys never go past INFLATION VS DEFLATION debates. Then they never define what sort of DEFLATION we are in. I guarantee you the rising cost of living I am now experiencing is NOT deflation! I really wish we had the REAL DEAL ... the kind of DEFLATION that sank everything in FDR times, because I'm tired of seeing all my bills keep going up!
Here is what is happening on an economic level in these two simple charts based on US FED data.
This chart clearly shows what government is attempting to do, which is to pick up the consumer/biz slack on spending. If you have a consumer driven economy like we do then someone has to "spend" to keep it going. The US government sees themselves as the appointed spenders. You'll notice that the "rate" has been steady since 2002 up until 2008. Then look at the radical shift in the "rate" of government debt growth in the past year or so up over 20%.
LINK: http://www.nowandfutures.com/images/debt_federal_s...
Then look at this chart and see how consumer and business credit has stalled and look at the growth rate of credit plunge from around 10% to 12% annual to zero.
LINK: http://www.nowandfutures.com/images/credit_all.png
Those who control this monetary game we are in will not let their powers slip away voluntarily without a fight. Do not underestimate the US government and the US FED abilities to create money and spend and devalue. This country and their powers were built on INFLATION not DEFLATION.
You cannot have true "deflation" while all prices for food, gas, electricity, healthcare are rising(consumer staples). I am not convinced the couple knows what they speak of simply because they analyze one side of a multiplier based on consumer debt growth equations. That is really what this economy is based on is DEBT. That is so because our money is based on DEBT.
There is a very easy way out of deflation, the kind that FDR faced. The RESET BUTTON ... FDR was able to inflate his way out within a two year period. Ben Bernanke knows how, he has made numerous speeches about it prior to his new role at the US FED. It has nothing to do with "multipliers" ... since this is a monetary crisis it will be a monetary solution that will resolve this failed economy.
It will end when the C WORD is in full force, then the US Dollar will be devalued severely.
Isn't it a given that rampant accumulation of DEBT cannot go on forever? I always thought it was and I didn't go to Harvard to figure that out ...
So what is the end game according to Mauldin once the "multipliers" have run their course and DEBT does not equal growth and the debate is over? What next? Is it buy more GS? Or bank holidays? I don't know what does he say? I have never read his stuff ...
Its a MONETARY CRISIS ...
Mahalo !!