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Bill Cara’s Blog for May 28, 2010 [See post-close report]

Morning Call [7:33am ET] I must admit that yesterday’s trading was probably the biggest challenge for me in 2010, so I’m guessing most of you are bewildered today as well. It happens, especially at reversal points in market trends.

The consistently good technical analyst Colin Twiggs (IncredibleCharts.com) reported today on the US Dollar and Gold, as he does weekly. But he too recognizes there could possibly be a trend reversal going on here.

First I have to say that I believe the equity and commodity markets and precious metals prices need a soft US Dollar here to boost today’s high prices higher. However, I am not convinced that (i) the corporate fundamentals warrant higher prices here, (ii) higher equity prices will do anything – other than cause a temporary short squeeze, as is happening – to push the mountain of sidelines cash into the market, which is necessary and would lead to sustainable higher prices and market stabilization, or (iii) that Europe has resolved the basic conflict between capitalist and worker, and in fact the people there are readying themselves for general strikes in support of social equity.

All of this means to me that the US Dollar will remain in an uptrend for a few months longer and that the next great Bull market is not ready to begin. First there must be the completion of a full Bear cycle before Mr. Market is ready to commit the massive capital needed to advance the broad market indexes.

Here is what Twiggs has to say about markets today:

The US Dollar Index is retracing to test short-term support at 85 after breaking out of its trend channel. Failure would signal the end of the rally and a test of the lower trend channel. Upward breakout remains as likely, however, and would offer a short-term target of 90. Target calculation: 87.5 + ( 87.5 - 85 ) = 90.

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Gold is testing resistance at the December 2009 high of $1220. Respect would warn of a down-swing to primary support at $1060 — confirmed if support at $1170 is broken — while breakout would signal an advance to $1380. Target calculation: 1220 + ( 1220 - 1060) = 1380.

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These are my charts, not Twiggs'. You ought to check out his excellent site at http://incrediblecharts.com.

Ultimately, I believe, the US must admit and resolve its federal and state debt and deficit issues. There will also be an enormous economic impact of the Gulf Oil Spill, which for weeks I have called the greatest man-made disaster in US history, greater than the Exxon Valdez spillage of 11 million barrels of oil in pristine Alaska. These issues ought to cause a trend reversal in the US Dollar at some point. I believe that point will occur when the global equity market is ready to start the next primary Bull phase.

Timing is everything, as they say and we know. Obviously, there is short-term, intermediate-term and long-term timing. That’s for you to decide what’s appropriate for your interests.

I suspect we will be having a lot of discussion this summer about deflation vs inflation, though, which has longer-term implications than most of the issues we discuss here daily.

Have a great day. Enjoy the volatility.


CTA Trading Desk Post-Close Report

Markets were fairly stable this morning, oscillating around, unchanged as the market digested Thursday’s massive gains. However, an oddly timed downgrade of Spain’s debt by Moody’s shattered the relatively quiet pre-holiday trading with the S&P shedding -1% in a matter of minutes; investors scurrying out of Euros (FXE-0.74%) and rushing into fixed income instruments (TLT+0.52%). As the initial shock gradually diminished, prices settled into a choppy, range-bound session punctuated by brief bursts of algo trading, essentially treading water for the balance of the day (S&P-1.24%).

The day before a long weekend often has little bearing on the future direction of stock prices so there is no need to over-analyze the significance of the price action on Friday. With all the macro risks floating around the globe right now, investors are understandably nervous about their stock holdings and are quick to unload poorly performing investments.

The upward surge in the stock market yesterday would normally suggest further gains, but these are not normal times. The shear enormity of both private and public debt coupled with the immense leverage still in the system make capital preservation rather than return on equity job number 1.

Upside targets, support and resistance remain unchanged from previous posts. We should get a clearer read on the US economic outlook after the jobs report is released next Friday, but one has to wonder if the giant oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico may have unforeseen long-term consequences currently not priced into the equity market.

We hope you have a great weekend and that everyone takes time to remember the tremendous sacrifices of countless soldiers, sailors, aviators, and their families. So many courageous men and women in the armed services have stood in harm’s way so that we can enjoy our freedoms.


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Just based on the sentiment

now, and compare it to the nat-gas craze ( re: Boone Pickens ) of a couple years ago, ( imvho ), there could be a decent chance of a repeat ( but maybe longer lasting ).... http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=CLNE+Interactiv...

Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Good morning.

NOK - Upgraded to Neutral @ MKM Partners. MKM upgraded Nokia citing valuation and its expectation that the company's Q2 results are unlikely to disappoint.

PG - William Blair Initiates Coverage with an Outperform.

RY - Downgraded to Sector Perform @ Scotia Capital.

RY - Downgraded to Neutral @ Macquarie.

RY - Downgraded to Sector Performer @ CIBC.

TGT - MKM Partners Initiates Coverage with a Buy. PT = $66

WMT - MKM Partners Initiates Coverage with a Neutral. PT = $55

U.S. Income growth outpaces spending in April

By Greg Robb WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - Personal income outpaced consumer spending in April, the Commerce Department said Friday. Personal incomes rose a seasonally adjusted 0.4% in April for the second straight month. The gain was in line with economists forecasts. Real after-tax incomes rose 0.5% in March, the largest increase since May 2009. Economists say higher income will help make the recovery sustainable. Consumer spending was flat in April. This was weaker than forecast by economists surveyed by MarketWatch. With incomes running faster than spending, the personal savings rate rose to 3.6% of disposable income from 3.1% in March. It was the highest savings rate since January. Inflation was tame. Core inflation rose 1.2% in the past year, the slowest rate since last September.

Right after the above news release, the tape reports Stock futures trim rise after consumer spending

just based on the sentiment?CLNE #63638

I became very distrustful of pickens pontifications when I watched his family dump millions of shares every two or three days during that "public service" blitz for using nat gas two septembers ago.........rather self-serving...........baz22/ thanks for the heads up on ALTH

K Denninger video - surmises topping chart in 07 is similar now

http://bit.ly/9zMUXy

I thought it was entertaining. not endorsing his work.

Cara 100 Update

DB - Downgraded to Underperform @ Macquarie

Toby,

I have been doing a lot of thinking ( just need to remember what I was thinking ! ) about trading in this new decade.. A lot of crap has really hit the fan.. The greed (as usual), the deceit (same old/ same old ), the craziness (makes for fun days).. But, imho, I really believe this has made all traders ( long, short ) a whole lot smarter, and this is a very good thing. We can never fight the algo's and massive black-box raids, and I think everyone understands this. Losses ( damn-it !) will be more limited, gains more smartly taken, emotional trades lessened, and personal growth enhanced. Thats why, with a very Big Thank You to Bill and his team, and ALL the great contributions from the Community, I look foward to what may come. This past two years has been a hell of a ride, and its not done yet, but we all have had a selective shoulder to lean on, and time to heal any wounds. Good trades to all....

redux gold...

as per my comments yesterday gold failed to really surge higher into the close, and looking over the Kitco 3 day overlay chart you see how gold has risen back up to track its own price over the last few days but not exceed it.

i have noted on this pattern for several years that it generally preceeds a sharp and sudden dump in the gold price if the price doesnt quickly rise above prior days action prior to market open.

we are moving a few dollars lower but if we breach $1204 i suspect the move will be a big one down, as opposed to a breach above $1216 which will signal the next monster up.

good luck. right now im looking bearish unless we suddenly reverse course...

watching for the last 10 min. trading low

of two days ago at RIG ( $ 54.00 )

as aside

RIG's locations (per Obama halt)... http://www.deepwater.com/fw/main/Listing_by_Locati...

Picked up my nickels

sold aapl, 1/2 GOOG. CSCO SU CY. Looks like a lot of red beans today so far

Re: Picked up my nickels

Out AMAT and CLO.TO. Av'd down on V. Looking at RIG. (See MHFT.com: They are not liable)

Wonder if SII holders

are cashing out, and moving into competitors ?!

Excellent report from

ESL last night.

Boone Pickens On The Oil Spill

So I watched Boone Pickens on Larry King last night....he basically said:

1)The top kill procedure probably won't work.

2) You'll know that the top kill didn't work when the junk shot is tried (BP did that since the interview).....and that probably won't work either.

3) The oil spill probably won't get stopped until a relief well is functioning

4) 36 days from now, you and I will be sitting here discussing when BP will get that well capped.

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Boone's been wrong in the past. Let's hope that he's wrong about this.

Re: redux gold...

Hola Dr Cosa and goldbugs,
To me it seems that there is a new trend in gold movement.
Possibly the result of gross financial mismanagement world wide. And HB&B seem to be the root cause.
Normally gold has risen to "new highs" and retreated then a slow upwards crawl.
Now? Many years ago on Kitco forums people were predicting "gold at $1,000' then at $2,000 etc.
Since it's coming out of the ground at a cost of (about) $280 per ounce it's now very profitable, New mines, new discoveries, and it puts lots of cash into Mexico, (here).
So dr.cosa, do you see a new trend ?

Re: redux gold...

allengg wrote:

"Since it's coming out of the ground at a cost of (about) $280 per ounce it's now very profitable, New mines, new discoveries, and it puts lots of cash into Mexico
So dr.cosa, do you see a new trend ?"

allengg,

yes, the new trend i have observed for the past 3 years is one of declining ability for new and existing mining companies to leverage cheaper energy prices and higher gold prices into higher share prices of their stock.

the price a gold company can cite for extraction means absolutely nothing if they are unable to rise alongside the run up in gold. it means they are dealing with other costs either on the books or off that are hampering their abilities. the share structure of most jr. miners are terribly simple:

shares, warrants, options.

perhaps im oversimplifying but this is the crux of the matter, the warrants and options present a problem as those can be set or exercised at strike prices all over the map by people either fully vested in the outfit or not at all despite holding a sr. position within the company.

valuating these miners is a fools game for all but the most skilled, dedicated and experienced, and even for them it can be very risky business. what happened was more to do with over zealous share price run ups in 2005-2008 before the dump that has never seen the shares regain their ground back. again: GDX:GLD ratio's (same with $CDNX:GLD) shows in spades the issue.

so really, if a miner tells me they are pulling gold for $250 an ounze, my question is: who cares if your share price is the same as when gold was half the price. what material impact does that have when it doesnt help me make money in trying to determine if this stock will at some point rise or fall.

jr. mining is like Bio-tech, there are the high flyers but they are few among the vast majority that will never make money for anyone outside the board room.

Re: redux gold...

"vast majority that will never make money for anyone outside the board room."

too true.

Re: Boone Pickens On The Oil Spill

Ixtoc-1 blowout redux?

Very similar circumstances and took 9 months to resolve after spewing an estimated 3.5 million barrels of oil into the gulf and this well was only in 160 feet of water.

It just seems inconceivable, knowing the history of Ixtoc-1, that BP received a "categorical exclusion" from the National Environmental Policy Act in April of last year.

http://home.versatel.nl/the_sims/rig/ixtoc1.htm

Biggs doesn't seem to see a future Bull.

From the article
Warning: Crash dead ahead. Sell. Get liquid. Now

You remember Biggs: In his book "Wealth, War & Wisdom" he advises his high rollers to prepare for a "breakdown of the civilized infrastructure." Buy a farm: "Your safe haven must be self-sufficient and capable of growing some kind of food ... It should be well-stocked with seed, fertilizer, canned food, wine, medicine, clothes, etc. Think Swiss Family Robinson." Biggs is not advising small investors on what to do with their 401(k)s.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/crash-is-dead-ahe...

Problem Well in the North Sea

Statoil are having a problem stabilizing one of their wells in the Gullfaks oil field.
http://bit.ly/cOEIfj

Sell-off just now:

12:37:33 PM

*(SP) FITCH DOWNGRADES SPAIN SOVEREIGN RATING ONE NOTCH TO AA+ FROM AAA
- Fitch anticipates that the economic adjustment process will be more difficult and prolonged than for other economies with AAA rated sovereign governments, which is why the agency has downgraded Spain's rating to AA+. Spain sovereign credit profile remains very strong, underpinned by a diverse economy and sound financial sector.
- Fitch believes Spain's economic recovery will be more muted than forecasted by the government.
- Sees the final costs of restructuring the Caja sector could be substantial.
- Fitch forecasts Govt debt to reach 78% of GDP by 2013

***Reminder: Earlier in the session the Spanish Finance Ministry updated its economic forecasts, maintaining its 2010 GDP view of -0.3%, lowering its 2012 GDP growth estimate to 2.5% from 2.9% prior and lowering its 2013 GDP growth esitmate to 2.7% from 3.1% prior

What Happened there? DOW droped down to 130 in a flash?

Is this another FAT finger scenario??

Re: Sell-off just now:

As soon as I saw the market plunging, I figured it was you, Vad. ;>)

Re: Sell-off just now:

Note the reflex action - when equities & most (all?) commodities were sold off, JPY, treasuries & gold were bought.

Was anything else bought?

Re: Sell-off just now:

I'd like to downgrade America!

Re: Sell-off just now:

LOL... If I had such power, I'd (ab)use it differently: buy everything, turn on "UP ONLY" mode, retire to the most beautiful beach in the world while knowing I keep everyone happy... except shorts but who cares about those outlaws anyway

Re:Fitch

Why do we have to listen to their prognostications, do they have more than 3-4 people covering ROW?
co

Spain

That said about Fitch, Kostohyrz warns that if next month's numbers (Spain) confirm a faster than forecast contraction that it could set in motion the "terminal phase" of the Euro crisis.
Another post points out the distinction between what corporations are allowed to disseminate publicly (Nothing misleading on pain of punishment) vs govt (Anything they want to achieve their aims with impunity)

Re: redux gold...

Gold caught a bid, is back in it's short-term up channel.
Miners have not.

Seasonality says I believe that gold should top out by midsummer, if it hasn't already, and then the next rally should not start until August.

This says it hasn't topped out yet:

A Consolidation & Breakout Study of Gold Updated
http://edegrootinsights.blogspot.com/2010/05/conso...

"The latest gold breakout occurred after an extremely volatile and long consolidation. To suggest that it has topped out after 3-months and 9% rally from the breakout ignores the massive energy stored within the previous consolidation."

news on Crystallex ?

Currently up 13%. Anyone have any news of this?

Re: redux gold...

$250 is really more like $750 when all the costs are included. You don't GET any gold if you don't pay for exploration, pay for property, 7 years of permitting, buy a crapload of machinery, build a mill, dig off the waste, and pay etc, etc, etc, ad infinitum on top of the "cash costs" number you are likely quoting. GSS used to say their cash costs would be between $180 and $200. They finally turned a profit at over $1000 gold.

If it were really $250 the earnings reported wouldn't be measured in pennies per share.

MON

Position @ 50.7 (paid too much) Looking for gap fill to $53

(US) House of Representatives

(US) House of Representatives approves legislation to extend unemployment benefits and adjust the 'carried interest' fund manager tax code
- Extends jobless benefits through Nov 30
- Bill includes $48B in taxes, including mutinational businesses and fund managers
- Includes $1/gallon biodiesel tax credit extension
- Includes delay in 21% Medicare payment cuts to doctors (costing $23B over 10 years)
- Bill designed to eventually subject approx 75% of the Carried interest income from fund managers at ordinary income rates
- Oil barrel tax raised to $0.34/bbl from $0.08/bbl
- Vote was 215-204
- Note: Senate expected to debate the legislation in June

SPY

Would taking out the opening of SPY yesterday at 108.78 have any downside significance??

SRS

In at $27

Spain credit rating has been cut

Fitch Ratings has cut Spain's credit rating, saying the government's efforts to reduce debt will weigh on economic growth in coming months.

Beyond all the hype to try to boost the Euro, I don't see the economy there or the financial condition of the banks getting stronger. As I see it, the whole Club Med group of Portugal, Italy, Spain and Greece is continuing to sink. I anticipate regional general strikes in June.

Re: news on Crystallex ?

Other than the Chinese and maybe the Russians, who really cares?

Why not tell us what the Vancouver chat rooms are saying.

btw, I've had to block mail on this subject. I have zero interest in KRY.

ex-Aurora

Had the opportunity of hearing a founder of Aurora speak the other day. On to bigger and better things now in mortgage banking -- selling to the hedge market. Based in Salt Lake w. Denver Ops. Anyone here know of W J B radley Capital Corp? Thanks in advance.

Re: (US) House of Representatives

That's a 425% increase in the oil barrel tax.... but relatively painless at 62/100 of a cent per gallon.

Worst May since 1940!

Why do these bubbleheads dig up meaningless trivia and feed it like pabulum to the investing sheeple. The worst May since 1940, indeed. It means nothing. The best wireless device ever invented was the mute button.

No wonder I think kaimu is so smart. He ain't got no TV!

Re: U.S. Income growth outpaces spending in April

U.S. Income growth outpaces spending in April
Submitted by analyst65 (109 comments) on Fri, 05/28/2010 - 08:40 #63671
By Greg Robb WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - Personal income outpaced consumer spending in April, the Commerce Department said Friday. Personal incomes rose a seasonally adjusted 0.4% in April for the second straight month. The gain was in line with economists forecasts. Real after-tax incomes rose 0.5% in March, the largest increase since May 2009. Economists say higher income will help make the recovery sustainable. Consumer spending was flat in April.

This is a news site that may shed some light, then again any luminosity gained appears to be disappearing just as quickly if one considers there is a cycle here as well as the financial cycle.

http://presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=128098&sectionid...

Understanding Junior Company Jargon

Hi,

I just finished reading several articles on the Mercenary Geologists website.
http://www.mercenarygeologist.com/

Here is a link to understanding Resources & Reserves
http://www.mercenarygeologist.com/mercenary_musing...

Link to questions to ask yourself when evaluating Juniors
http://www.goldgeologist.com/mercenary_musings/mus...

Enjoy
E

gold debate: GATA vs. CPM on FSN

FSN did an audio debate between Bill Murphy (of GATA) and Jeffrey Christian of the CPM group about two weeks ago. I just listened to it today.

After listening to the entire hour, I was really struck by the vast difference in the approach by the two people during the debate. Bill Murphy came across as being so sure of his eventual correctness that he could safely ignore the trivial details of specific matters of fact, while Jeffrey Christian seemed well researched, precise in his use of words, and had an impressive depth of experience to draw from. Of the two of them, Jeffrey was infinitely more credible to me.

The six points for the debate were selected by GATA, and Jeffrey clearly did his research on each of them. Interestingly, while I feel Jeffrey pretty much demolished most of GATA's points, the question of whether there was systematic intervention in the gold market by central banks (or their proxies) in the recent past was actually never directly addressed.

Likewise, Jeffrey was quite clear on one matter: that from its inception to 1971, the job of the central bank WAS to intervene in the gold and currency markets to maintain the pegs to gold, and other currencies. That's was - as in, past tense. While he is generally positive on gold as a holding, his thinking is that the gold market is too small for the central bankers to notice today. However he does not come right out and say that intervention isn't happening. His main points are that GATA's evidence is ill-chosen, and are often either factually incorrect or reflect an inadequate understanding of how things work in the marketplace.

I'm not coming to a conclusion about whether or not central bankers currently manage and intervene in the gold markets - but I do feel that Bill Murphy comes across as a man who is quite comfortable ignoring issues of fact because he's so sure he's right about the big picture. He might still be right, but to me he comes across as a wingnut.

http://www.financialsense.com/fsn/main.php

search for CPM group.

Saturday Morning Coffee: This Ain't Nothin'

http://ronsen.blogspot.com/2010/05/saturday-mornin...

Trying to see the other side of the trade. Well, at least the video is good.

Re: Spain credit rating has been cut

Hi Bill,
Just wondering on the time frame for general strikes in California!

tempers and dollars

Six Impossible Things

John Mauldin's latest newsletter attempts to explain basic economics so that even a politician can understand.

Six Impossible Things
www.frontlinethoughts.com/

Unfortunately, I believe politicians will continue to avoid reality and we'll see more of the same kind of irresponsible action that allowed us to get into this mess.

Since Europe is applying the same "solution" as the U.S., apparently politics (not music or math) is the universal language.

Should this home be saved?

davefairtex,

Thanks for that link to Mark Hanson's article on the shadow inventory of foreclosures. His painting is rather bleak; I can see his point about cutting your losses sooner from a purely 'let's get this done' for the market recovery standpoint. But these are people's homes we are taking about and most home owners tendency to try to save their homes and their dignity regardless of the 'financial sense' cannot be underestimated. http://tinyurl.com/26zz8gk

Re: tempers and dollars

I believe that unless BP and RIG, by virtue of the statutes cited in the article, can limit their liability from the immense damage caused and to be caused in the Gulf of Mexico and elsewhere from this massive oil flow, either BP individually or both PB and RIG will be forced into bankruptcy, depending upon how the facts concerning individual liabilities develop.

Therefore, they will try to block claims of badly harmed innocent people as well as governmental entities. If they succeed a lot of people will be a lot angrier than they are today.

I hope the mud plug stops the flow. I wish I believed that it will.

PROMISES PROMISES

ALOHA!!

Promises to pay ... or just PROMISES ... is all that holds up a US Dollar or a Euro or any other currency. The entire global economy is built on PROMISES and those countries and governments that have done the best job of making those PROMISES "look" the best are the ones who's attracted less wrath from the CDS wolfpax. Never mind the S&P and Moodys rate game.

Here is something I never saw my entire life until now ...
LINK: http://tinyurl.com/2354l4h

Have you ever made a promise to any one before? Did you keep your promise? Certainly there is a stigma when you fail to keep your promise. In reality then what is a promise other than the "promissor's" liability. When you make a promise you take on a liability. Debt is a "promise", but then so is a US Dollar. In the future any time you read the following word "taxpayer" automatically replace your learned definition of that word with the word DEBT. Anytime you see the phrase "taxpayer bailout", in your mind it becomes "DEBT bailout". Any time you see "taxpayer supported", think "DEBT supported". There is no amount of taxpayer funds any more that can back or support or bailout anything any more. ITS DONE! If I were Johnnie Cochran, OJs defense lawyer, I would say, "AT EIGHT TO ONE ... ITS DONE!" That is the ratio that the US Treasury spends for every net tax dollar it receives now ... 8:1.

Here is an exert from an article I read today ...
Bankruptcy talk spreads among Calif. muni officials
LINK: http://tinyurl.com/25qf2as

"Bankruptcy is what you do when you run out of options. The city has a lot of options and has been exercising those options," Santana said.

Talk of municipal bankruptcy has not escaped California's politically powerful public employee unions. A number of them are pressing the legislature to pass a bill that would require local governments to get the approval of a state board before filing for bankruptcy. Since the board could be stacked with union-friendly appointees, bankruptcy pleas could be rejected or delayed.

"It's a horrible bill," Levinson said. "If you don't have the bankruptcy outlet, what do you do? If you can't pay your bills what do you do?"

Some one tell me ... Who is more greedy? Banker CEOs or unions? For me its a toss up. Its obvious to see why ... In America today when the ship is sinking its not women and children first, its bankers and unions first! This is the dynamic US Voters have chosen by electing the two party monopoly for decades.

What all these "promises" are in reality are LIABILITIES. The exact same liabilities that back every currency and government in the World. There is no inflation or deflation there are simply "liabilities", which is why I call this the LIABILITY BUBBLE. What part did liabilities have in Lehmans bankruptcy compared to America's money supply? Not much difference between Lehmans and Vallejo,CA today. The time for an ASSET BUBBLE is when fiat currency no longer exists and global government is less than three quarters of what it is now. Why do these "liabilities" exist now in such enormous proportions? In one word PAIN! Essentially nobody wants to "feel it"! It can all be boiled down to the "human condition". The propensity to feel pleasure is stronger than that of feeling pain. PAIN HAS BEEN POLITICIZED!

The sound of Oz air travel revenues being sucked down the drain

Virgin Blue slices 75pc from tipped profit, shares plunge 27pc

The airline blamed a steep drop in leisure travel and a sudden decline in consumer confidence for the lower pre-tax profit guidance of $20m to $40m. Just over three weeks ago the company narrowed its pre-tax earnings guidance to the lower end of its $80m-$110m forecast. Mr Borghetti replaced Brett Godfrey as chief executive just five days later.

Analysts were shocked by the downgrade, with several questioning whether it was "a clearing of the desk" by Mr Borghetti.

IG Markets analyst Ben Potter said it was a disastrous start for Mr Borghetti.

"The airline has blamed a rapid deterioration and sharp increase in the volatility in its operating environment," Mr Potter said in a note. "Nonetheless, it's hard to fathom how they could reiterate guidance just three weeks ago and now possibly be wrong by up to 75 per cent."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/virgin-bl...

Woha! These guys are supposed to be the budget competitor to the old established Aussie airline. Either they've stuffed it up or the Australian consumer is stuffed. Things ain't looking up in the land of Oz.

Re: Should this home be saved?

Loannetter - Definition of dignity: The quality or state of being worthy of esteem or respect.

Maybe its just me, but I think being worthy of esteem or respect is generally something that comes from your inner nature, rather than bestowed on one by property - property actually owned by the bank, and which you only have as long as you make those absurdly high mortgage payments.

The concept that one rents dignity from a bank through outsized mortgage payments is - well its good for the bank, I suppose. Bad for families, I think. Chewing through 401ks and savings in a futile attempt to hold back the flood-tide of debt, now that's the tragedy. The family loses both the place where they live, and their safety net.

I hear you though. Lots of people feel the need to rent that dignity.

Re: gold debate: GATA vs. CPM on FSN

...evidence is ill-chosen, and are often either factually incorrect or reflect an inadequate understanding of how things work in the marketplace.

Heh... pretty much reminds me my debates with HFT-haters. Once decided who the villain is, not bothering with actual evidence anymore - and then Benford's law of controversy comes in play: "Passion is inversely proportional to the real information available."

Top kill is not working

BP conference... top kill and junk shot did not work.

Moving to the next option known as LMRP. The procedure involves cutting off the failed, leaking riser at the top of the Lower Marine Riser Package on the blowout preventer to get a clean-cut surface on the pipe. Then they will install a cap with a sealing grommet that would be connected to a new riser, with the hopes of capturing most of the oil and gas flowing from the well.

Ugh...

Report from Corn Country

Took a trip out through Peoria County and into adjacent, very rural counties. Can report that tiny corn is up and doing well with abundant sub-soil moisture. Farmers will do better than Gulf fisherman. Even went past an extensive windmill area, a project of BP, I have read.

It's turning more and more into a corn mono-culture in the hi-yield corn and soybean belt. Used to be a duo-culture with more crop rotation including some wheat and oats. Very high reliance on fossil fuels for fertilizer, tractor fuel and drying the corn in the fall. (Last season the harvest was so full of moisture that several grain elevators caught fire when their overworked propane dryers overheated.)

Then there are the Dept of Ag subsidies. As Kaimu says, "It all works until it doesn't".

Re: Top kill is not working

Matt Simmons is reporting that a NOAA chartered submersible last week found a huge oil leaking area 5-7 miles
from the wrecked drilling rig and that this spot is responsible for the large blob of oil suspended at 3-4000 ft and is the source for all that orange brown goop we see on TV floating on the ocean surface. The camera we see on TV
is showing a pipe which is not spewing this oil.

He thinks the military will have to blow the well shut with bombs. And when a hurricane comes into the gulf,
the real destruction will transpire.

He said the media is way underplaying the real disaster.

You can listen to him on the saturday podcast at Financial Sense.com

Re: Top kill is not working

I saw his interview on Bloomberg and can not identify where he gets this stuff about another plume originating at 5-7 miles away. The plumes (several identified by States research vessels) seem to be a product of the dispersants applied and the source could be very well from only one wellhead.

Simmons may be promoting his own interests in seeking greater Gov involvement, even suggesting the "nuclear option". He is after all a top capitalist heavily involved in the oil industry.

Thats all we need now... radioactive as well as oily shrimp. I may have to go back to China as a source, which I don't trust either.

Re: tempers and dollars

Stranger things have happened, but a theoretical/technical possibility is $ 38.00, simply ( Very simply ) based on a 3 rd/ wave gap in May 2002, that was never retraced.. all depends on how long the flow continues, but $ 45 could definitely be in the cards for next week ( late Thursday ? ).. total psychology and B.S. at this point... RIG should be one of 2010's classic Fear/Greed trades to be studied by students of the market..

Re: redux gold...

Gold switched to a new primary uptrend from flattening, on May 1st. The primary is the main determinant in resolving shorter-term technical impasses, per Martin Pring at pring.com. That said, the gold market is obviously much more switchable than the indexes, or large sub-indices. However, because I follow Mr. Pring's reviews and methodology, (he wrote one of the founding works of TA), I find it difficult to imagine a sudden drop of any significant degree unless Eurozone debt problems miraculously clear up soon.
The only thing IMO working against gold right now is the prevailing trend toward deflation short-term, which would favour banks utilities consumer staples; because gold does best when real-interest rates turn negative. CPI is only 2.2 right now, so ten-yr T-notes still have a positive return. If and when that changes, gold will take off like 1979.

http://www.investingdaily.com/id/17359/gold-bullio...

This guy has the best primer Ive read so far

Re: Should this home be saved?

Dave,

I understand what you're saying, but I think symbols are important.

Home ownership is a powerful symbol for many of us. It is the work and effort which goes into earning the money to buy and hours to maintain the house which makes it a "home" that is worthy of esteem and respect — something the greedy people who caused all this turmoil and grief don't understand, or even worse don't care about.

Re: Top kill is not working

Mokat, Illini,

I read the Simmons comments with disbelief anyone would suggest such a thing! I'd just seen the report of the other leaks a few miles from the big one (2?). To risk such a cavalier approach to this is just crazy.

Those poor people in Louisiana. First Katrina and now this. I know presidents can do little to fix such huge problems, but neither Bush nor Obama reacted with a real sense of command urgency. We need to remember that whatever politicians promise, none is more than human and often disappoint.

The media is a farce as usual.

Fossil fuel dependency should be reduced by international agreement (and enforcement if necessary). We could start by rationing fuel as we did during WW2 and force the use of other, cleaner energy. We've had 30 years since the 1970s "crisis" and could have developed a nationwide mass transport system, but instead increased oil usage.

Our city is cutting fire stations and staff due to budget issues, but still running scores of school buses daily. Kids are overweight and under developed. At 72 I am amazed at the stamina of my 91 year-old neighbor — we cut down a tree in his yard this spring and dug out the stump — something many kids would never attempt even for pay.

It's time to get serious about this.

Re: Top kill is not working

Grym,
"Those poor people in Louisiana. First Katrina and now this. I know presidents can do little to fix such huge problems, but neither Bush nor Obama reacted with a real sense of command urgency."

It appears to me that BP's primary interest is to preserve the viability of its well. I have read that past underwater blowouts have been remedied by measures that destroyed the well, e.g., detonation of a small nuclear device that destroyed the well structure.

The President does have the power to intervene. I an sure that if US Citizen's were polled they would overwhelmingly say that he has the duty to intervene in the public interest. BP's interest is not the public interest. BP may own the well, but its well is a public nuisance and should have been destroyed long before it inflicted so much destruction to others and to the environment.

Re: Should this home be saved?

ALOHA!!

The word "dignity"; Latin dignitas or "merit"; dignas or "worthy". Then you must consider the word "dignity" has many misplaced values. Something I learned from many years doing prison work, as "dignity" in prison takes on a 180 degree turn compared to homeowners. I actually believe being a homeowner is less about dignity than it is about "safety". My God ... we all need some sanctuary in the World and having a home has been the American Dream for as long as I can remember. I happen not to believe in that "Dream" as I believe it is more the "Bankers Dream" in reality.

That leads me to the next tangent that I have proposed here before. I think we need to completely re-examine the banking system in America and make it more beneficial to those who actually produce real income rather than those who "shuffle paper". I think we need to eliminate the "paper shufflers" in the middle of the loan equation. Right now technically the US Treasury owns Fannie and Freddie, which is where most residential real estate loans reside, so essentially the US Treasury is in the real estate loan business. The many middlemen are gone, but not by their choosing. The banker did not build the home and technically did not pay 100% of the cost to build the home. Plus the home is built one time yet when it is paid off or sold it is resold and re-loaned and repaid many times over. In a home's life it could be sold some ten times, each time sold for a higher cost than before.

Now if we can get rid of the banks and the central bank then there is no reason the US Treasury cannot write loans direct to its citizens and corporations directly. That means no fees and no interest rate regulation from some murky central bank engulfed in monetary and political elitist agendas. In fact why pay any interest? These are internal capital generated by American citizens and corporations for American citizens and corporations based within the borders of America and in legal compliance with all US laws. Why should foreigners be involved internally in any aspect and why have bonds? If in actual fact that the US Taxpayer is backing all banks and loans and debt in America then why should there be any interest on any loan to a US Taxpayer? A flat fee to cover the cost of the loan administration is all that is needed.

Right now we have a system that favors "paper shufflers" of the OPM. You put your hard-earned cash in a bank and they loan it out ten times over. What if I sent you an e-mail that said this:

Hello there ... or as we say here in sunny Hawaii ... ALOHA!!

My name is Kaimu and here is my address.

Hawaii USA

If you have any spare cash at the end of the month send it to me. I will pay you 1% for your cash, but if you, your family, your friends or a complete stranger wants a loan I will charge you 5% and a few loan fees. Sometimes those interest rates might go up, but I will always make sure I make a profit. I will also loan out more than ten times what you send me so I can grow in size, but I will be careful not to loan to people who have a poor credit history. I look forward to seeing your envelope full of cash!

Thanks!!

PS: I am honest so you can trust me, but just in case you have doubts since we have never met, your deposit would be insured by you and all the other depositors who pay taxes, but not by my bank or me personally.

Wouldn't all that smell like a con job? Yet we all go around accepting these banks as GOD! In actuality they are truly parasites that suck capital production from the economy for no real benefit other than their own self-serving agendas of personal wealth accumulation at the expense of society. In other words the complete opposite of "dignity", its BANK WELFARE. Why do we need you, Mr Drysdale? Its turned out that the combination of banks and government has been a complete disaster, which has rendered this country much less safe. Why not get rid of the bank part of that equation. If I were to make a list of top National Security threats I would list the US FED(with its member banks) at the top not BinLaden!

This post all came about when my wife and I were sitting around talking about how unsafe this country has become over the decades. It seems when we were kids in the 1950s things felt a lot safer then and as the decades have passed things feel much less safe. Its a palpable feeling in the air as many of our friends and family have less security due to job losses and money problems. While we have no debt and plenty of income there is still this feeling that America is much less safe than at any other time in our lives. Its not really talked about at social gatherings or on FaceBook or on the streets of Hilo, but the feeling is there. I have come to the conclusion its all tied to our monetary system. Our monetary system, globally, has changed since 1950. As our money is less safe so are our lives.

Dignity ... indeed!

Sunday Morning Coffee: Premature Celebration

http://ronsen.blogspot.com/2010/05/sunday-morning-...

A trillion dollar European bailout didn't stop the currency carnage. The WSJ wrote about the hedge fund cabal taking down the Euro in February...

Re: Top kill is not working

lessmore,

Well, U.S. citizen's opinions on TARP and the health care bill meant zip to the White House or the congressional leadership, but our opinions may be a major factor in November and 2012.

I'm firmly convinced we are and have been under of bipartisan joint venture with big business, big unions and any other "special interest" groups with a big powerful lobbyist group.

It is less a government by, for and of the people than ever before.

BP is just the latest to get a pass on responsibility. I heard this week the had more than 700 violations and the next closest were tied with two each. Why do we need a congress who does nothing until there is a calamity. Presidents have some power, but the ongoing responsibility for something like this is belongs to those who have been entrenched in D.C. for decades.

They never get fined and continue to draw their full benefits regardless.

Off with their heads!

Re: Should this home be saved?

"This post all came about when my wife and I were sitting around talking about how unsafe this country has become over the decades. It seems when we were kids in the 1950s things felt a lot safer then and as the decades have passed things feel much less safe. Its a palpable feeling in the air as many of our friends and family have less security due to job losses and money problems."

My wife and I were talking about the same thing just last evening. We used to walk to school and, although told to be careful of overly friendly strangers, there was not the pervasive fear we hear about today.

I know there have always been dangers, but people used to be more civil. Much of it is in the media every day. Not just the actual crime reports, but those who do the reporting are rude, discourteous and trying to stir up emotions or push a political agenda.

I know you don't have TV, but each week the History Channel runs an evening called "Gangland" with interviews and bloody images of gangs — their initiations, wars and drug deals. How can this not be affecting the youngest kids who see this as glamorous and exciting?

I have found no way to contact the producers with my disgust for their programming.

We built our house in 1967 and have watched the racial mix change without incident. All our neighbors from the longest (42 years) to the most recent (less than 1) are nice, responsible decent people. But within the last two years we've had an attempted carjacking at gunpoint, burglaries and a bank holdup (with a half mile) than all the rest of our time here. Everyone is concerned and we look out for each other, but with the city budget shortfall We are having police and fire cuts — not conducive to a secure feeling.

End Game according to Felix Zulauf

Deflationary spiral until systemic collapse that makes Lehman Bros. look like a picnic, massive leveraging of central bank balance sheets and rapid currency destruction, followed by reform. A possible scenario that is worth hearing out.

http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadca...

Another angle on the 'Flash Crash-' Loma Prieta

http://tinyurl.com/288dshc

The Flash Crash was more along the lines of the periodic shakes that hit California almost monthly, causing only minor and temporary damage to portfolios with ST time frames. The geologic analogy can be extended to the 2008 Crash, which has led/will lead to more enduring effects/changes.

As with the Loma Prieta, a few people took hits on investments (especially those built on the soft soil of the Marina District), while others profited from the event.

Similarly, the likely fall-out from May 6/October 2008 may include more 'crash-preparedness' on the part of investors, tighter structural building codes, and seismic retrofitting of portfolios (more so with larger retirement/pension plans).

If one resides in California, earthquakes are part of life. And if one invests in the markets, crashes are part of the life of any portfolio.

Re: Should this home be saved?

davefairtex.

I don't disagree with you on the value of true inner dignity... which is why I AM suggesting ending the pain sooner if you really can't afford new lower payments via modification or forebearance. I see both cases...in most, a spouse has lost a job or business has been lost temporarily or other temporary hardship like divorce or disability. Most people are working hard to recover their balance. Those are the folks for whom modification or forebearance works. Most people who find me for distressed counsults do so because their former bank or broker is either no longer around or they have been tossed around by their servicer for a year with no offer. I fear that many banks are just waiting for HAMP and MHA to expire so they can pounce with impunity.

Re: Should this home be saved?

Kaimu,

With fresh eyes on a Sunday morning I look around me and find that concept of sanctuary is at the heart of this. My friends, my garden, my favorite rock to sit upon. For most of us the concept of an anchor in life is missing and our own inner grounding is a far away dream. The American Dream of owning everything in sight is a crock. I worked in advertising for many years and it became increasling hard to sell the sizzle as we say...especially one that might harm your health. Years ago when I was sailing competitively in Australia I began practicing tai chi. Learning to center myself made moving on the constantly tossing boat deck so much easier. Mentally anchoring myself to the deep earth beneath, not the tossing wind and tides. I think that personal connection with 'real life' is lost to so many who are influenced by mass media and time texting and facebooking our every move. We have become extensions of the banks and the social media and yes, even blogs like this where we come to muse. At least here there is often a meaningful exchange which I greatly appreciate. Not to mention those lovely orchids you sent my dad in his hour of need last year. Home is where the heart is, after all.

Have a great weekend and Memorial Day in memory of those who suffered and gave their all so we might have this very debate.

Re: Should this home be saved?

loannetter - I know you're trying to help people out. But consider this:

I believe that this is mostly about societal programming that we've chosen to accept as fact. Bankers have constructed a storyline, which we have all parroted to our friends, family, children: "Here, pay twice as much in payments as you would have in rent, and you get the title of Home Owner. This tells everyone - your parents, co-workers, and friends, that You Have Arrived, You Are Somebody, You are Successful - and now you're smart, because You Aren't Throwing Away that Rent Money Anymore." Its all about ego. And it's really quite expensive. And the banks are laughing - well all the way to the bank, I suppose.

It didn't used to be this way. A lot of things didn't. But that's where we are now.

Do YOU want to be a tool for the banks? I'm not suggesting that you are doing so deliberately, but challenging this societal programming which seems to be benefitting only the banks may be a greater service (long term) to your customers than if you work hard so they can remain plodding oxen chained to their debt wagons lugging their unnecessarily heavy debt burden around for the next 30 years of their lives. All so they can retain that coveted Home Owner title.

"Lose your Home Owner title, and you become nothing more than a renter, you can be made homeless almost at any moment, the scum of the earth, and you will have to hang your head in shame, because you're a failure." That's the message we have to challenge, and reject.

Let the banks pounce on those underwater homes. The path may be temporarily painful, but if helped to see that all these subliminal messages are just programming by bankers trying to keep the entire nation as debt prisoners, it might actually be a helpful release for these people. And their standard of living will instantly increase, too. That's gotta be worth something, no?

Re: End Game according to Felix Zulauf

Les,

Thanks. Very interesting commentary which seems plausible to me. He is in line with several others — A.Gary Shilling, Van Hoisington, Mish to name a few.

In the mean time I think the biggest problem for many of us will be the tax increases which have already begun due to the budget shortages at cities, states and of course, national levels.

If I were fortunate to have one of the golden pensions which are choking governments I would be putting away every penny I could right now.

I don't know how this will all play out, but I think holding physical gold and silver is a good idea for either "flation". I have some zero coupon bonds (in case of Zulauf's scenario) which have been gaining lately and trying to decide what to do with my mostly cash position.

Life is not only getting too complex, but moving too fast for me. I need a mental upgrade, I think ;-)

Re: Should this home be saved?

davefairtex,

I don't disagree with your premise. And while it may seem I am playing a part in the banks ability to suck consumers dry...it is an individual's decision whether to be chained to their home, their computer or their trading portfolio if that brings them comfort. I provide a service for those who want that entry into what debt vehicles provide. AND I promote paying off your debt as soon as you can via speed equity or basic principal reduction payments. I heard Dr. David Suzuki speak a few years ago about communities and what struck me about his talk was an observation that for most people our homes are not investments. They are where we have our memories, our children's growth charts on the doorjambs and our pet fish buried under the peonies.

As an aside, I walk every day past a huge new greenbuilt public housing village with water views...nicer than my own modest home. I saw a guy unloading a new 47 inch flastscreen TV the other day. How does public rent assistance compute with someone who is still consuming like that?

My latest post suggests ending the pain of foreclosure sooner than later may be preferable for many. While heresy to the real estate profession (by ending those juicy short sale commissions)it is still quite a personal decision which must be weighed up like any trade. http://tinyurl.com/26zz8gk

BTW: there would be no BAC's JPM's and C's on your trading screen if they were not profiting from taking advantage of consumers. Unfortunately their aren't many careers for folks like me to to go up againt the big box banks and challenge consumer status quo. All the congressional seats are bought and paid for.

Re: Should this home be saved?

"I heard Dr. David Suzuki speak a few years ago about communities and what struck me about his talk was an observation that for most people our homes are not investments. They are where we have our memories, our children's growth charts on the doorjambs and our pet fish buried under the peonies."

Yes! It was a corn field and now has forty foot maples trees five cats and 43 years of memories and when I go my ashes too. I know many people have become nomads do to work demands, but there are still a lot of us who preferred to stay put near family and friends.

Re: End Game according to Felix Zulauf

Thanks Les for posting Zulauf's interview.

Zulauf says the deflationary boogeyman caused by excess capacity and debt expanding at a greater pace than economic growth will be met by central banks creating more massive amounts of new debt leading to a Lehman -on- steroids type banking collapse which could cause a total collapse of banks and currencies and the emergence of a new form of currency... all within weeks.... a quick hyper-collapse rather than a long drawn out period of hyperinflation.

This would repudiate much of the excess debt by allowing it to be paid pennies on the dollar. Those holding cash would get slaughtered... like the Argentine scenario on a western global scale. He said precious metals, a farm and other essential assets would offer protection. His timetable was uncertain 1-3-5-7 years. He also said basic manufacturing commodities could fall 50% in the next 1-1.5 years as China will suffer a 1970 style recession from overcapacity and excessive speculation in real estate.

His scenario seems quite plausible to me.. Many Caraistas probably subscribe to the hyperinflation scenario
but few probably think a collapse of the banks and currencies would take place in a timeframe measured in a few weeks or months at most.

Zulauf mentioned that the gold supply is constrained and demand rising as confidence in fiat money falling rapidly. He said central banks have gold but won't sell, adding to the supply crunch.

I would also expect Chinesesavers will rapidly add gold as their savings assets in stocks and real estate suffer a significant pullback correction. It was reported that Greeks were recently paying up to $1700 per ounce for gold coins on the black market. Probably a similar scenario coming to a neighborhood like yours in due time.

Today, along with others who gave their life for our country, I honor my uncle, LT Charles Johnson who is buried in a massive US military cemetery in Nettuno, Italy, who died when his jeep hit a land mine during the Italian campaign. I was unable to ever know him in person as he died some years before I was born.

As Kaimu said
"Its turned out that the combination of banks and government has been a complete disaster, which has rendered this country much less safe. Why not get rid of the bank part of that equation. If I were to make a list of top National Security threats I would list the US FED(with its member banks) at the top"
I would add the Department of Defense along with their corporate suppliers as the perpetrators of war and destruction across the world. They make us less safe as well. Time to end the mindless aggression in our attempt to control the world.

A good holiday weekend to all.

Re: Should this home be saved?

loannetter - its a tough question you pose; what's a mortgage broker to do? Do your best ethically to help your customers on the one hand, certainly, and you seem to be doing that. And your blog post reveals you are gradually changing some of your views based on your experiences with your customers.

Still your argument, when stripped of the nouns, sounds like you could be describing another profession:

"it is an individual's decision whether to be chained to their *product*, their computer or their trading portfolio if that brings them comfort. I provide a service for those who want that *particular product*. AND I promote ceasing the use of *product* as soon as you can..."

What else could *product* be? Tobacco? Alcohol? Other addictive substances? But what's good about you is, you're the caring supplier - and you're a one-stop shop. You sell them the product, AND you refer them to the Betty Ford Clinic at the same time! All that's missing is, "if I weren't selling them *product*, someone else would!" :)

I'm just trying to be thought-provoking here. I too have my struggles about participating in this whole corrupt system. Going forward, I think we would all be well served by engaging in work that is aligned with our own sense of morality and justice. Right now I'm trying to figure out what that might be for me. I can tell you are on your own journey as well.

Re: Should this home be saved?

davefairtex,

Any *product*, person or activity can become an addictive fixation... even good ones! Betty Ford huh...maybe I should start a debt recovery center where you go and dry out from your credit cards!

Yes, working with the seriously stressed is a sobering experience which has changed my view. I am less willing to recommend the easy choice and I often present a strategy that may require thinking. It's interesting who takes me up on these strategies and who doesn't. An elderly woman came to see me a few weeks ago for whom a combinations of programs and steps made the most sense to keep her debt under what is considered prudent. But she was determined to get into even more debt...so she went to the next bank who obliged. Later she admited she had gone for the risky option. Of course I could have offered that option but frankly thought it could backfire. I guess her banker had their manager looking over their shoulder saying "fund that loan!"

Any investment or debt vehicle can be used well or badly. Mortgages provide access to a level of stability if not sanctuary that renting simply does not afford. As a former renter myself I was often surprised how easily landlords raise rents with little regard for your ability to pay it, your privacy or your rights. Moving is tiring and expensive unless you find the upheaveal exciting. At 4.75-5.0% fixed rates for thirty years its enticing to buy now with housing prices so low...how much lower can homes and rates go? I'll have a job for a few more years with any luck! BUT for congress being paid by HB&B to kill us with more restrictive broker laws to limit our feees. The maximum origination fee on FHA loans is now 1%. So the people who need the smallest loans won't find a broker willing to fund them...don't get me going!

I know renting is great for lots of people who like to live more flexibly so buying a home would present an overcommitment that could tie you down. But for most folks buying within your means just makes sense. It is cheaper in our area to buy over renting. You get control of your world and you get price stability. Home ownership helps people form more connective bonds in communities. Even today it's actually relatively easy to get into a home with 5-10% down and keep your spare cash working hard for you by paying down your principal or in other investments. USDA and VA are funding zero down loans even now!

An interesting aside: many of the Mods have a start rate of 2.0% around five years escalating to the current conventional rate in another 3-5 years. A really smart person would pay their principal down while in the 2% range. It's certainly an incentive to get your life in order.

On the journey: I once heard of a famous yogi who was able to walk amongst the most seamy underworlds of thieves and criminals and remain untainted by them while making a postive influence with just his kindly presence. Got a better idea? :)

Re: End Game according to Felix Zulauf

I have to add my voice to thank for Len posting this link. Its very thought provoking. We have seen how, once confidence fell in Greece, how quickly the market turned on Greek bonds, and how when left unchecked, that contagion spread to bonds of other heavily indebted countries.

The scenario of rapid-fire debt default followed by massive money printing as a policy response is not something I had considered before, but it is a reasonably possible scenario given the intensely interconnected nature of today's global financial system. Viral contagion spreads rapidly via air travel, and financial contagion spreads rapidly throughout our global financial networks.

We saw in last week's Flash Crash how things move faster than before to their ultimate end. Felix is just projecting this forward in a larger scale. Electronic interconnections won't cause the trouble, but they will take something that might have happened before in months and compress the time frame into hours or days.

Another impact of this is, once the electronic panic in the crowded theater starts, it is quite unlikely that we peons will be able to get through one of the small doors to escape to the outside.

Re: Should this home be saved?

loannetter -

It sounds like buying right now may make sense as long as your rent is greater than the fully loaded costs of owning that home. I can definitely see housing prices continuing to drop further, as that shadow inventory is released onto the market and fewer people are able to buy because of lack of income, but at the very least, it sounds like in your area, its not actually an act of financial stupidity to buy now. And if Felix is right, buying property will provide insurance against the flash-hyperinflation scenario, as long as you don't mind dealing emotionally with the continuing drop in property values that will come immediately prior to that hyperinflation playing out. And to your point - if some idiot (i.e. the taxpayer) is willing to let you buy using zero down, that's a free call option protecting you from hyperinflation. Looking at this strictly as a trade, why would I turn that down, if my payments were less than renting a similar location? And you get all those lovely homeowner benefits thrown in there for free. That seems like a no-lose situation to me.

However, staying in a home you've dramatically overpaid for is quite another matter, and that's the issue I have with mods. If you're 30+ percent under water, does a mod make any sense at all - will it bring you to that magical place where you are paying the same or less for your property over its lifetime than it would cost you to rent today? If not, when why on God's Green Earth would you do it other than because you've bought into the whole Home Owner societal programming?

Memorial Day

On my Father's side of the family there has been a soldier in every war since the War of 1812. The soldier in the War of 1812 fought AGAINST America. He was a Hessian artillery non*com. His name was Tom's Son. At the end of the war, he decided not to go back to the Fatherland for whatever reason, stole a wagon and horses from the British and made his way to Pennyslvania. He bought an Algonkian wife which he named Mary. They had two sons. The first was named George Washington Tomson and the second, Andrew Jackson Tomson.

We all came from somewhere. Like Will Rogers once remarked, and being part Indian, that 'My ancestors didn't come over on the Mayflower but they were here to greet them.'

One of my boyhood heroes was Audie Leon Murphy. I guess you could say that he was the Sgt. York of WWII. America has been very lucky to have had such citizen soldiers. In wars past, I'm sure that these 'kids' were fighting for ideals and for what they were taught or absorbed from family, church and school. I fear those times are passing and that our future defense will be assigned to mercenaries who fight for pay. I sense this now to some degree. What pity.

"Then up spake brave Horatious, the keeper of the gate.
To every man upon this earth, death commeth soon or late.
And what a greater death than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of your Fathers
And the Temples of your Gods."

When you see smoke puffs on the ground from your F4, the first one is EH, the second is AH, the third one is OOH and the forth one is F**K!!!

Rest in peace Craig Cunlif, my RIO who died in his bed this last March. He saved my life.

Re: End Game according to Felix Zulauf

Thanks for the link, Les.

Great comments and summations from Grym, MoKat and davefairtex. This DENSA member is humbled by the brain trust that comprises this board.....the best market commentary and analysis available anywhere.

Regards,
BH

Re: Memorial Day

Ross,

"One of my boyhood heroes was Audie Leon Murphy. I guess you could say that he was the Sgt. York of WWII. America has been very lucky to have had such citizen soldiers. In wars past, I'm sure that these 'kids' were fighting for ideals and for what they were taught or absorbed from family, church and school. I fear those times are passing and that our future defense will be assigned to mercenaries who fight for pay. I sense this now to some degree. What pity."

I've had the same fears of mercenaries due to the practice of using them in Iraq. Haven't heard much about them lately,but if Obama stopped their use I'm sure we'd have heard plenty. What really frosts me is our totally "volunteer" military who were shipped over nine years ago and now have little option for whatever life's work they had planned before (regular forces getting paid a fraction for the same risk).

Immediately following 9/11 we saw the same reaction as Dec. 7th, 1941. Audie Murphy's story is amazing and there are many similar. My cousin's husband, Dick Carlton, had been picked to pitch for the St.Louis Cardinals, but enlisted and suffered from his wounds until his death six years ago. At his funeral I learned he was awarded the Silver Star for going back under heavy fire to carry and drag two of his wounded guys to safety. I knew he got a battle field commission (like Murphy), but had never known about the pitching career he gave up or the medal story.

I know one soldier now serving his second tour (1 Iraq, now Afghanistan) whose father did two in Viet Nam and have faith in our youth. It is our civilian leadership which I doubt.

My sincere thanks to all who've served and especially to the WW2 and Korean War vets who let me finish school and enjoy a secure and happy life.

Canadian GDP

Q1 GDP up 6.1%; best in over ten years, topping forecasts. Seven straight months of growth. Carney is up tommorow with an interest rate announcement. 6 months ago he promised not to move rates until tommorow at the earliest. Will he move ahead of the Fed? Last time they tried that they had to back-peddle after the 2003 double-dip. Bonds have been in a volatile down-channel since Dec 2009, alternatively anticipating a hike this week and reacting to January and May's equity swoons. Prices are currently at the the high-end after the equity weakness of May. Could be interestingly today - to the downside. US/CAN has also dropped a penny since the GDP announcement.

Canadian Bond Universe ETF, XBB, attached.

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German President, Horst Köhler, Resigns

Re: Memorial Day

Our family and community thanks each and every one of you who've ever served - we are deeply grateful for your sacrifices on our behalf.

Have a truly great day, Vets.

Re: End Game according to Felix Zulauf

I believe it was in the Woodward book, "Maestro"* (an ode to the "genius" of Alan Greenspan) where I read about Citibank being in deep trouble due to a major investment in Cemex (?), a Mexican cement business.

As I remember it the U.S. taxpayer bailed Citibank out, but the Mexican citizens suffered a 30% devaluing of the Peso. I'm wondering if someone (preferably a Mexican citizen) can relate the effects of such an action.

If Zulauf is correct I'm sure we will see a more extreme version and it would help us to defend against this kind of rare occurrence.

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*I have always thought P.J. O'Rourke could have done a much better job with the Maestro's material ;-)

For a time I thought there was no such person as Alan Greenspan — only a fictional character played by Walter Mathau, then Walter died and the Maestro still pontificates occasionally.

Re: German President, Horst Köhler, Resigns

Disgraced for telling it like it is, ie the truth about war.

Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond?

A classic, a fascinating read from 1982, the history of De Beers and a study of how markets are built.

Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond?
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/0...

"The diamond invention—the creation of the idea that diamonds are rare and valuable, and are essential signs of esteem—is a relatively recent development in the history of the diamond trade. Until the late nineteenth century, diamonds were found only in a few riverbeds in India and in the jungles of Brazil, and the entire world production of gem diamonds amounted to a few pounds a year. In 1870, however, huge diamond mines were discovered near the Orange River, in South Africa, where diamonds were soon being scooped out by the ton. Suddenly, the market was deluged with diamonds. The British financiers who had organized the South African mines quickly realized that their investment was endangered; diamonds had little intrinsic value—and their price depended almost entirely on their scarcity. The financiers feared that when new mines were developed in South Africa, diamonds would become at best only semiprecious gems.

The major investors in the diamond mines realized that they had no alternative but to merge their interests into a single entity that would be powerful enough to control production and perpetuate the illusion of scarcity of diamonds. The instrument they created, in 1888, was called De Beers Consolidated Mines, Ltd., incorporated in South Africa. . . . "

Re: End Game according to Felix Zulauf

A 10 year (and counting) ongoing waterfall currency crash?

SDRs vrs Gold. (SDRs as a proxy for the major currencies)
http://fx.sauder.ubc.ca/cgi/fxplot?b=XDR&c=XAU&rd=...

At the bottom of this academic forex charting site's main page there are some quick links to charts for a few of the more recent currency crises:

http://fx.sauder.ubc.ca/plot.html

Jesse has something to say:

Gold Daily Chart: The Handle Forms, a Reader's Questions, and Felix Zulauf on Gold
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2010/05/g...

" . . .
If people look back to the last great credit collapse worldwide which was the 1930's, and sees what happened to currencies and gold, they will obtain some knowledge that could very useful to them now. Stubborn ignorance can rationalize amost anything, and there is a peculiar tendency among people to resist the data that does not support their assumptions, until they are overwhelmed. They still have some hope due to the somewhat arbitrary nature of fiat currencies today, but increasingly less so for the very good reasons that Mr. Zulauf outlines in his interview.

. . .

As a reminder I do not subscribe to the pure hyperinflationary outcome yet, which I think is not likely in the US at least. For my way of thinking, organic hyperinflation is a function of a currency with an external reference point. At the moment, the US dollar has no legitimate external standard as a reference point, except something soft, indicative, like gold. This is a truly fascinating and almost unprecedented historical development. I cannot think of a comparable economic example.

I suspect we will see powerful deflationary forces that will be countered by monetary inflation and devaluation that is not quite sufficient to break it, because quite frankly Bernanke is no Volcker, and the monied interests will resist a deterioration of their inordinate share of the dollar wealth of the world. That is not to say that various countries and even regions will not be economically 'trashed' in the process by a predatory financial sector based largely in New York, Zurich, and London.

Within eight years I would see the US dollar financial system resolving into a currency collapse and the issuance of a new dollar with a few zeros, two or three, knocked off as was seen with the rouble. It will look somewhat similar to the collapse of the former Soviet Union, not with a bang, but a whimper.
. . . "

Germany

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20100531/D9G1U6C0...

These things are very rare, and are usually caused by a multitude of factors. After all, reaching the position of ruling over one's fellow men is somehow hardwired into us as being very important, the "Alpha male". However to quit and leave this situation means things are very serious.

Germany will need to quit the Euro, and then live with the anarchy and riots that will rout Europe. Or it will be taken down bit by bit by it's less well off and more fiscally irresponsible neighbors.

There will be a whole new age of "austerity" and "responsibility" that will perfectly reflect that all attempts for countries to inflate their way out of debt (default by printing) is not working and that deflation is already on the way.

Walmart dropped their already low prices, China is operating on 2% profit margin. How will precious metals do in this environment? Really, I think that is the question of the day/decade.

All paper assets are at risk. All future promises are at risk. People and countries have been enslaved with debt and laws, now the beginning of the endgame starts.

Lack of productivity, lack of demand for buying, and poor resource utilization (we invested in a lot of stuff that won't be put to good use), as well as the socio-economic-anthropology (SAE)effects of a grand Super Cycle top will play out.

Re: Germany

I agree, there is a whole lot more to this story. Germany is not a third world country. And for the president to quit while citing the cause as words he said about Afghanistan? Who are they fooling but themselves?

Martin Armstrong: The Two Phases of the Great Depression

New piece, short & very topical (no long historical discourses or rants).
I won't try to comment otherwise.

The Two Phases of the Great Depression
http://www.scribd.com/doc/32234380/The-Two-Phases-...

horizons

with the american markets closed a strange phenomena occurs with the beta pros. They are making sense today!

I have thenm all paired up in the bear and bull versions and low and behold they are pos/neg...pos/neg etc. Whereas usually the bear and bull oil for example can both be red at many times when the us markets are open. Just an observation....

Re: Martin Armstrong: The Two Phases of the Great Depression

so a look at Armstrong's thesis suggests that deflation is for those that cannot inflate their way out of a given situation. The refusal of the ECB to print more Euros to Greece's detriment is one example. Though Ambrose has questioned how long the ECB will stick to its monetary discipline when it sees that it has assigned Greece et al. to the great depression conditions that we know and understand from history. As inflation was not permissible on a gold standard in the US in the 30's, so prices had to devalue to a level that met the reduced circulation of dollars following the banking collapse and deleveraging (or something along these lines).

This is not the case now. The US has the power to print and inflate. It cannot of course lead a horse to water. If the ECB sticks to its core premise of inflation controls and Europe melts down as a result, then the US consumer is likely to remain subdued, all at the same time as China is now entering its cyclical downturn. Commodities are potentially due a 50% haircut according to Zulauf. So maybe not sufficient deflation to cause a spiral, but simply soft CPI/PPI results that confirm stagnation.

But we all know that the US Govt. refuses to get its fiscal house in order. It is worth noting some graphs I found of debt levels following WW2, which can be found here:

http://www.businessinsider.com/niall-ferguson-sove...

Note graphs 29, 30 and 31. Debt levels following WW2, their subsequent drop in relation to GDP and how they got there, through growth and inflation. Note bondholders and how they fared during much of the second half of the century. They lost out big time. That is to point out Armstrong's remarks pertaining to the IMF discipline it is trying to dole out on Greece right now. Putting Greece's house in order comes at the expense of the people; it's the bondholders that win.

The US post-war showed that it was willing to screw bondholders (whether intentionally or inadvertently I don't know) in order to reduce the pain on the people, yet they were stealthily and steadily taxed by inflation, which they nonetheless did not complain about. This suggests that Ben the Chopper might be fantasising that this is his own war, and he is the general trying to 'save the people' with a dose of monetary inflation sufficient to counteract those deflationary force America faced in the 1930's. As Fergusson has pointed out in the graph of real annual returns on bonds, its these guys that take it in the a$$ financially speaking and this would sit with Bill's TOG, which appears to be stretching out over a multi-year time frame.

End game still remains in the fact that the US govt. cannot service its debt obligations. It defaults, devalues its money, probably cuts its ties to the global economy as it restructures itself and I imagine that those who own the factories and farms make out like the same owners of property did in the Wiemar Republic. But it does suggest that, like Armstrong points out, America can avoid a repeat of the Great Depression and social strife and prolong end game for a number of years yet. Zulauf may not have all the answers, but end game according to one script or another looks reasonable.

At least with Bill and a few other honest traders around, we get a day by day and weekly/monthly picture build up of what is happening to the capital flows that will assign America its eventual destiny. 'Follow the money' it is, has always been and always will be, amen.

Horizon at Semiahmoo

2nd Ave,

And others interested in our corner of paradise: This project was officially soft re-launched this week and I can provide US or Canadian connections if you are interested. Lots are going for $99K about 1/3 the original price. Frontier Bank was taken over by Union Bank of SF but the developer is still on title and focused to the future and integrity of the offering by meeting the market. My role will be to help find the money but you may bring your own bags full. http://www.liveathorizon.com

Rosenberg at Gluskin Sheff

rosenberg's thinking pretty much along same lines here: low growth (1%), negative real interest rates, extinguishing debt. Punishing savers, pain coming. Gold is favored in the scenario, energy and consumer staples are the safer sectors to hang out. Good piece. Lists some indutries that have pricing power.

https://ems.gluskinsheff.net/index.ncl.html

Geithner stops by Germany

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3e1113c0-698d-11df-8ae3-...

Hussman said it well last week:
Treasury Secretary (Eddie Haskell) Timothy Geithner has scheduled a trip to Europe this week to urge European leaders "to pay better attention to potential market reactions to policy moves, and to accelerate the European rescue program." This promises to be a fiasco. What could European leaders possibly find more arrogant than to be lectured on bailout policy - not simply by the U.S., but specifically by a one-trick pony bureaucrat whose chief trick is the ability to smoothly talk the language of prudence while simultaneously pillaging the fiscal stability of an entire nation for the benefit of bondholders who made bad loans?

Re: Martin Armstrong: The Two Phases of the Great Depression

Les,

We had one huge advantage following WW2 — we were THE manufacturer to the world — virtually every other industrial nation was destroyed.

It was our ability to out-produce both Germany and Japan which won the war. One Jeep came off the assembly line every four minutes, Liberty ships were made in similar record time.

Today we have allowed most of our manufacturing to be outsourced to cheaper labor countries. Young people have been sold on the idea that "information" is our most important product and we have few trained machinists, wood workers, etc. These are jobs which take time to learn and need competent teachers — they were all forced into early retirement 15 to 20 years ago.

Re: Martin Armstrong: The Two Phases of the Great Depression

ALOHA!!

If anyone cared to look then they would see that every time the USA was involved in a War, whether WW1 2 or the Civil War the gold standard was suspended. The only War where the gold standard was not suspended was the Vietnam War ... instead the gold standard was eliminated. Any archive of US DEBT will show that the debt levels reached extraordinary proportions during the WW Wars as did the taxation levels that hit 94%. Yet after these wars were over the gold standard returned and that made all the difference. After the Vietnam War the gold standard did not return and you see the result ... not extraordinary debt, but extraordinary exponential debt. This is what happens when humans try to emulate the gold standard ... they cannot! The temptation to spend and print debt is just too irresistible as such mechanisms are seen as "easy" tools to retain power.

You also have to look at personal and household debt levels prior to WW1 and WW2 compared to now as well as personal savings. Add in many other factors like the fact the USA was an oil exporter during WW1 and WW2. Not today ...

Thanks to "Reserve Currency" status and the removal of the gold standard America's only virtue is that it is well armed with nuclear weapons and a huge technologically advanced military. But at what cost? You cannot solve the Worlds problems or your own with military adventurism. So many past Empires have proven this as the absolute wrong path to chose, yet here we are watching Obama outspend George Bush on Defense Vendor outlays, so the military industrial complex rolls on like the insolvent banking complex. What are our greatest exports? Monetary fraud and militarism?

The failure long ago was the permanent abandonment of the gold standard. We have not recovered since then. Look at any chart for anything related to debt and it goes exponential after 1971. All the negatives go exponential after 1971, including our standard of living and the ability to survive on a savings and a fixed income. America's idea of "savings" now is a house and a 401k! If George Bush had any say so he would have thrown your Social Security checks into the pit at Wall Street also ... Is that the strategy for retirement now ... trade your way out? For the masses that's a disaster waiting to happen! No ... the true solution is to reward savers not gamblers, but that will never happen. We refuse to vote for that.

What is happening is there is going to be a return to assets not liabilities. Paper that can be duplicated to eternity is a liability. As I have always said "real wealth" will be where money flees in the end. Goldman Sachs(derivatives) is not "real wealth" ... Derivatives are yet another tool of the "false wealth" owners to transfer "real wealth" not create it. Alan Greenspan had a real chance to regulate and end derivatives before they wreaked serious sovereign havoc, but he did not as he and any other US FED Chairman are simply owned.

Re: Horizon at Semiahmoo

loannetter- Pricing for finished homes then begins at 309k for projects originally priced in the 1m range?

New Beginings

I could not be more excited, or more anticipatory, than now, today. Call it what you may... divine intervention, the clouds clearing away, a hard knock on the head ( ! )... But, for whatever reason, it washed over me like a tidal wave today, that a new era is coming upon the world, and I mean in a most positive way. Like any great change, I do not believe it will happen overnight, but the seeds have been planted. People are beginning to escape the rose-colored world they have know for so long, and are beginning to take conrol of their lives and their destiny. There will be much turmoil, no doubt, but from this will come greatness. And, this change will spur new ideas, new ways of living, new ways of growth. I personally think, when history looks back at this period, with all the monentary abuses of HB&B, all the lies, theft, disent worldwide, it will also see the beginnings of when the New started to take the place of the Old, when the tiny, under-funded companies of todays start-ups learned to walk, then run and then to soar. You saw it 25 years ago with Microsoft, Apple, Cisco, etc... This is the beginning of a new age of discovery... People wonder why Bio-Tech stocks can soar so high on good news... its not so much the ' good news ' as it is the ' Hope ', the ' future positive potential '... And deep down , I truly believe people really do look for hope and the positive in life... Sure the ' Market ' will try to mislead you.. that's its job.. But it will also reward you.. Maybe we retrace back to 8600 on the Dow, and 1020 on the S&P... So be it... But just like Christmas, I am making My list and checking it twice... I can't wait for the next Bull cycle to begin.... best of trades to all.

SLR UPDATE

ALOHA!!

SLR took off today on near surface(13m) drill results 9m@ 14.8g/tAu and 5m@ 24.2g/tAu for Costello ... This on the back of the Magic drill results of 19m@ 59g/t Au last week. I foresee quite an addition to "ounces in the ground" ... With production cash flow and no debt and no hedge the upside is still very much intact. An intraday high of $1.61, translates to a 940% return. That's one gold miner that has outperformed the POG since 2008.

Re: Martin Armstrong: The Two Phases of the Great Depression

Les you've done it again. That preso from Niall was awesome.

He looks at world history, and the behavior of governments in our predicament. He splits the world into those who can print, and those who cannot. It's simple: those who print, do. Those who cannot, default. Only one exception: England from 1815 - 1913. In addition, governments with massive debt burdens usually:
* oblige central bank and commercial banks to hold government debt
* restrict overseas investment by firms and citizens
* default on commitments to politically weak groups and foreign creditors
* condemn bond investors to negative real interest rates

This is the clearest and most succinct preso I've seen. Anyone can understand it. The only question I have is, how long will deflation (and the reflexive "flight to safety") have to run before his scenario comes into play?

It seems like the western world is bifurcating on its strategy of handling this debt crisis. Europe is staying on a "gold standard", where printing is not an option, and thus default is the only way out, while the US/UK is embarking on money printing. I am not sure how long Europe can stick with their plan - if they start embracing defaults, I think it will go well. If not, if they try and impose austerity without exposing sovereign bondholders to haircuts, the people of Europe will probably explode in protest and the result will be the end of the Euro. My guess is, the European bankers will be thrown under the bus eventually, but it might not happen right away.

We sure live in interesting times.

Re: Horizon at Semiahmoo

Correct! They have scaled down the home sizes, but not the quality. #1 US architect of 2009 still involved. Fully serviced and ready to go!

Re: SLR UPDATE

You've outdone yourself Kaimu. I looked in on SLR this morning to see that I've missed the train and a quick glimpse at the POG this morning leaves me with the impression that a breakout in the USD denominated price is imminent. I'm juggling strained finances and the absolute necessity of mastering the daytrading environment, so I chose to close down IB and put aside the idea of holding stocks longer time. Guess I miss out. The 10k that I opened IB with in 2009 at 1000% return on SLR = near $10M. What! A guy can dream can't he?

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ECB buying Euro sovereign junk bonds by the bucketload

Bonds worth about €3 billion are now being purchased on every trading day, with €2 billion of the bonds coming from Athens. At the moment, there is no improvement of the situation in sight. "The ECB and the national central banks operating on its behalf are currently the only buyers to speak of," says one market insider.

This policy effectively makes the ECB a so-called "bad bank" (a bank that buys up toxic assets as a means of helping out other institutions), all protestations of its president to the contrary. The pile of junk bonds on the ECB's balance sheet continues to grow. The fact that the ECB is keeping prices artificially high is downright encouraging banks to unload their risky assets onto the central bank.

Thorstein Polleit, the chief economist of Barclays Capital Deutschland, puts it this way: "The ECB is creating excess supply by buying at overinflated prices." In other words, many creditors are more inclined to sell their risky assets to the central bank under these terms. "It's a free lunch," says a top Frankfurt banker. "Anyone who doesn't take advantage of this opportunity to get rid of his securities now only has himself to blame."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,...

So Europe's defence against the speculators is to buy up all the trash sovereign debt - except German banks, which have promised to hold Greek debt on their books until 2013. Suspecting that this is a French plan, under Trichet, for French banks to offload 80 billion Euros worth of debt onto the European taxpayers, political fallout is probable if it is Germany that must take all the pain - their citizens footing the bill along with their banks that continue to hold debt that will be worthless once the ECB ceases support. If sterilized, that's a lot of Euros being taken out of circulation - 3 billion a day. A free lunch for gutless bankers. The politicians wanna fight the market...

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-rbas-statement-...

Europe has put Australian rates on hold. hmmm China coming down too. the top of the curve in the 'W' of a double dip recession? (which Australia narrowly avoided 1st time round due to govt largess).

Re: ECB buying Euro sovereign junk bonds by the bucketload

Yes, the Fed did the same thing with 1 trillion in mortgage backed securities. Since Treasury couldn't figure out how to make PPIP work in a way that wasn't an egregious and easily gamed gift to bankers, the Fed went and did it and called it "Quantitative Easing."

My guess - once the european banks (including the Greeks) sell off enough of their bad Greek bonds to the ECB, then Greece will be allowed to restructure.

Re: SLR UPDATE

ALOHA!!

Les-Well, when I was buying SLR at the low it was the same time the DOW was plunging at the low 8000. Here is a link to the various gurus you see on TV and what they were telling investors to do.

THE IDIOT-MAKER RALLY
LINK: http://tinyurl.com/yjsum8s

I am not sure why these guys keep getting the exposure they keep getting. They totally blew it, especially Roubini ...

REAL RISK

ALOHA!!

The "real risk" takers who produce "real products" that the masses use every day never get bailed out. Only companies like GS and JPM who skim profits using fraud and OPM are worthy of bailouts ... Are HB&B banks really invaluable to society?

BP Plunges After Attempt to Plug Gulf Oil Leak Fails
June 01, 2010, 4:07 AM EDT
Business Week
By Brian Swint and Eduard Gismatullin

June 1 (Bloomberg) -- BP Plc fell the most in 18 years in London after abandoning an attempt to plug a leaking oil well in the Gulf of Mexico, the worst spill in U.S. history.

BP plunged as much as 15 percent to 420 pence, the steepest one-day drop since June 1992. The company said on May 29 a “top kill” attempt to plug the leak using heavy fluids and debris had failed. That rules out stopping the flow of oil from the well until relief drilling is completed in August.

“Until the flow of oil from this well can be halted, there will remain considerable uncertainty over the potential damages,” said Peter Hitchens, an analyst at Panmure Gordon & Co. in London. “Although we believe that the market has overreacted to the bad news, we feel that there will be little stimulus to the shares whilst this leak continues to pump oil into the sea.”

The company will now try to contain the spill by fitting a pipe over the leak later this week to bring the oil to a drillship on the surface, it said in a statement in London today. The operation may temporarily increase the flow of oil into the Gulf before a cap can seal the pipe. The cost of responding to the spill has risen close to $1 billion, BP said.

Re: SLR UPDATE

Well your strategy does share commonality with what I am learning now, just in a different time frame. Knowing human nature, there's always going to be another opportunity.

Re: Martin Armstrong: The Two Phases of the Great Depression

"Alan Greenspan had a real chance to regulate and end derivatives before they wreaked serious sovereign havoc, but he did not as he and any other US FED Chairman are simply owned."

If I remember correctly, he even advocated them with some sort of Martha Stewart comment like, "It's a good thing".

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